Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card

2009-04-08 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Did you try to click on assembled digits? ;

2009/4/8, halbtaxabo...@yahoo.com halbtaxabo...@yahoo.com:
 I loaded the SD chip and the SIM card into my Openmoko as described
 on the Getting Started with your Neo FreeRunner page.
 I inserted the battery, closed the case and plugged it into the
 charger.

 It booted to the GUI (a few icons), then the screen went black after
 a couple of minutes.

 I pressed the power button, and can see text on the screen:

 Please enter the needed PIN.
 SIM Pin:___

 I'm using a prepaid SIM card from Co-op Switzerland. I have
 the PIN. But how do I enter it?
 In the lower half of the screen are lower-case letters. By experimenting,
 I find I can get upper-case letters, or digits or special
 characters, by stroking the screen with the stylus.
 I can touch numbers with the stylus and thus compose a 4-digit
 number - in the lower half of the screen.
 But how do I enter it into the dialog box for the PIN? which
 is in the upper half or the screen?

 A photo showing the screen is attached. There is no obvious way
 to get the assembled 4 digits into the required box.



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Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card

2009-04-08 Thread halbtaxabo-om

Yes, and nothing happened.
Then I tried to double-tap on the assembled digits, and that
worked...



--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: Johny Tenfinger seba.d...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card
 To: halbtaxabo...@yahoo.com, Support for Openmoko Device Owners 
 support@lists.openmoko.org
 Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 2:29 PM
 Did you try to click on assembled digits? ;
 
 2009/4/8, halbtaxabo...@yahoo.com
 halbtaxabo...@yahoo.com:
  I loaded the SD chip and the SIM card into my Openmoko
 as described
  on the Getting Started with your Neo
 FreeRunner page.
  I inserted the battery, closed the case and plugged it
 into the
  charger.
 
  It booted to the GUI (a few icons), then the screen
 went black after
  a couple of minutes.
 
  I pressed the power button, and can see text on the
 screen:
 
  Please enter the needed PIN.
  SIM Pin:___
 
  I'm using a prepaid SIM card from Co-op
 Switzerland. I have
  the PIN. But how do I enter it?
  In the lower half of the screen are lower-case
 letters. By experimenting,
  I find I can get upper-case letters, or digits or
 special
  characters, by stroking the screen with the stylus.
  I can touch numbers with the stylus and thus compose a
 4-digit
  number - in the lower half of the screen.
  But how do I enter it into the dialog box for the PIN?
 which
  is in the upper half or the screen?
 
  A photo showing the screen is attached. There is no
 obvious way
  to get the assembled 4 digits into the required box.
 
 

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Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card

2009-04-08 Thread arne anka
 Yes, and nothing happened.
 Then I tried to double-tap on the assembled digits, and that
 worked...

good lord, what usabilty genius created that?
to begin with, everybody aroudnyou can read your pin and then, you stay  
there and tap the screen in the faint hope it might work somehow?

and, just out of curiosity, what do you do when you need to correct a  
typo? the screenshot shows not delete or backspace or so.

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Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card

2009-04-08 Thread Johny Tenfinger
Backspace is when you slide your finger to the left (to right -
space). But I agree - using that keyboard is a big mistake. In
Qtopia/Qt Extended it works ok, but not in Qtopia/X11 ;p

2009/4/8, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
 Yes, and nothing happened.
 Then I tried to double-tap on the assembled digits, and that
 worked...

 good lord, what usabilty genius created that?
 to begin with, everybody aroudnyou can read your pin and then, you stay
 there and tap the screen in the faint hope it might work somehow?

 and, just out of curiosity, what do you do when you need to correct a
 typo? the screenshot shows not delete or backspace or so.

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Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card

2009-04-08 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
arne anka wrote:
 good lord, what usabilty genius created that?
 to begin with, everybody aroudnyou can read your pin and then, you stay  
 there and tap the screen in the faint hope it might work somehow?

 and, just out of curiosity, what do you do when you need to correct a  
 typo? the screenshot shows not delete or backspace or so.

Not that I'd defend that keyboard, but backspace is by stroking from
right to left over the keyboard and enter is by stroking from top to bottom.

Showing the entered stuff, is what you normally want on a keyboard, that
it shows it for password entries is, err..., debatable..., but probably
no explicit design decision :)

spaetz

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Re: Entering the PIN for a SIM card

2009-04-08 Thread arne anka
ah, i think i understand -- it's textfield for the pin and the standard  
(predictive) keyboard.

well, i don't thinkl that's a good team. passowrd and pin shoudl then have  
their own keyboards.

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