Re: Demise of Google Hangouts?
06.11.2019 5:49, Phil Smith III wrote: > It’s been reported that Google is killing end-user Hangouts in 2020: > > https://www.cnet.com/news/google-hangouts-gets-hung-out-to-dry-in-2020-report-says/ > > > > Some of us are irritated because we just moved off of AIM. I don’t care which > service it is, I just need it to work—my wife is housebound and uses it a lot > to communicate with me from her PC when I’m out and about. (Yes, > text-to-email works, but then she has to keep checking for responses in > email; Pidgin flashes/beeps). What else are people using that both Pidgin on > Windows and Android phones support? If you can't get with traditional public services (IRC etc.) there is also relatively new "Telegram" instant service network with native Android app and addon for Pigdin. Addon is somewhat limited: it sends/receives text just fine but multimedia processing (pictures/voice messages) needs improvement. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support
RE: Demise of Google Hangouts?
Someone mentioned SMS, which has good sides, but also bad, like: -How to use it on a Windows PC? I know Skype can send SMS, not sure about receiving. -It is not problem free. For example currently I can't send SMS to a certain contact due to some bug in the iPhome Messages app. Also, some providers charge per message. (2) Try Delta Chat (https://delta.chat/). This is a chat app that uses standard email as its transport medium. I must admit that I have not yet tested it but the idea seems sound and of course won't just disappear (yet!). There's a Delta Chat plugin for Pidgin, I see. Incidentally, the same contact has currently major problems receiving email messages, as the mail server is refusing some incoming messages (due to spam detector "recognizing" them as spam). Skype is what I would recommend for a more or less reliable service (there is a Pidgin plugin, using Skypes web interface, haven't used it myself), although I have login/logout problems in last few week on one of my devices (others work fine). I guess there is not perfect solution. David Balažic Lead Engineer www.comtrade.com From: Support [mailto:support-boun...@pidgin.im] On Behalf Of Mark Rousell Sent: 6. November 2019 10:32 To: support@pidgin.im Subject: Re: Demise of Google Hangouts? On 05/11/2019 22:49, Phil Smith III wrote: It’s been reported that Google is killing end-user Hangouts in 2020: https://www.cnet.com/news/google-hangouts-gets-hung-out-to-dry-in-2020-report-says/ Some of us are irritated because we just moved off of AIM. I don’t care which service it is, I just need it to work—my wife is housebound and uses it a lot to communicate with me from her PC when I’m out and about. (Yes, text-to-email works, but then she has to keep checking for responses in email; Pidgin flashes/beeps). What else are people using that both Pidgin on Windows and Android phones support? It's frustrating, isn't it. There are two solutions I'd recommend: (1) Run your own XMPP server. This is not as bad as it sounds. If you have a static IP DSL/broadband line you can run it on that perfectly well or you can get a cheap cloud/VPS. I'd recommend Openfire as the server software: https://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/ (2) Try Delta Chat (https://delta.chat/). This is a chat app that uses standard email as its transport medium. I must admit that I have not yet tested it but the idea seems sound and of course won't just disappear (yet!). There's a Delta Chat plugin for Pidgin, I see. -- Mark Rousell ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support
Re: Demise of Google Hangouts?
07.11.2019 0:17, Phil Smith III wrote: > Eugene Grosbein wrote: >> Why don't you use any free nearby IRC server? > > That's an interesting idea. My first reaction was "I'm not sure my wife would > like it", but I suppose thru Pidgin it won't "feel" any different to her. I'm > certainly fine with IRC (I used The Relay on BITNET in the early 80s, from > which IRC is evolved, so I have a wee bit of history there). > > I will look into that! Any suggestions for a public server that seems stable > (both in terms of RAS and not going away next week because someone changed > jobs or whatever)? $ host irc.freenode.net irc.freenode.net is an alias for chat.freenode.net. chat.freenode.net has address 204.225.96.251 chat.freenode.net has address 94.125.182.252 chat.freenode.net has address 149.56.134.238 chat.freenode.net has address 185.30.166.37 chat.freenode.net has address 38.229.70.22 chat.freenode.net has IPv6 address 2a00:1a28:1100:11::42 chat.freenode.net has IPv6 address 2a01:270:0:666f::1 chat.freenode.net has IPv6 address 2001:1bc0:c1::6667 ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support
RE: Demise of Google Hangouts?
Eugene Grosbein wrote: > Why don't you use any free nearby IRC server? That's an interesting idea. My first reaction was "I'm not sure my wife would like it", but I suppose thru Pidgin it won't "feel" any different to her. I'm certainly fine with IRC (I used The Relay on BITNET in the early 80s, from which IRC is evolved, so I have a wee bit of history there). I will look into that! Any suggestions for a public server that seems stable (both in terms of RAS and not going away next week because someone changed jobs or whatever)? BTW, Eion, your mention of SMS was attractive--I'd get ONE interface on my end--but looking at the plugins page, it doesn't appear to be available for Windows. Or am I missing something (as usual)? ...phsiii ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support
Re: Demise of Google Hangouts?
06.11.2019 5:49, Phil Smith III wrote: > It’s been reported that Google is killing end-user Hangouts in 2020: > > https://www.cnet.com/news/google-hangouts-gets-hung-out-to-dry-in-2020-report-says/ > > > > Some of us are irritated because we just moved off of AIM. I don’t care which > service it is, I just need it to work—my wife is housebound and uses it a lot > to communicate with me from her PC when I’m out and about. (Yes, > text-to-email works, but then she has to keep checking for responses in > email; Pidgin flashes/beeps). What else are people using that both Pidgin on > Windows and Android phones support? Why don't you use any free nearby IRC server? IRC technology has it all: private user-to-user messages, private group channels, public moderated/unmoderated channels and more. There are numerous IRC clients around including Pidgin itself. ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support
Re: Demise of Google Hangouts?
On 05/11/2019 22:49, Phil Smith III wrote: > > It’s been reported that Google is killing end-user Hangouts in 2020: > > https://www.cnet.com/news/google-hangouts-gets-hung-out-to-dry-in-2020-report-says/ > > > > Some of us are irritated because we just moved off of AIM. I don’t > care which service it is, I just need it to work—my wife is housebound > and uses it a lot to communicate with me from her PC when I’m out and > about. (Yes, text-to-email works, but then she has to keep checking > for responses in email; Pidgin flashes/beeps). What else are people > using that both Pidgin on Windows and Android phones support? > It's frustrating, isn't it. There are two solutions I'd recommend: (1) Run your own XMPP server. This is not as bad as it sounds. If you have a static IP DSL/broadband line you can run it on that perfectly well or you can get a cheap cloud/VPS. I'd recommend Openfire as the server software: https://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/openfire/ (2) Try Delta Chat (https://delta.chat/). This is a chat app that uses standard email as its transport medium. I must admit that I have not yet tested it but the idea seems sound and of course won't just disappear (yet!). There's a Delta Chat plugin for Pidgin, I see. -- Mark Rousell ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support
Re: Demise of Google Hangouts?
I finally dropped pidgin - not because of it but because all the useful services are making it so difficult. I have several small businesses and I used Google(multiple accounts), fb, yahoo and aim.. and they are all crap now. Companies wanting to close their IM so they can push ads and other things I would imagine are seeing a drop in use. -- Registered Linux User: #480675 Registered Linux Machine: #408606 Linux since June 2005 On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 4:49 PM Phil Smith III wrote: > > It’s been reported that Google is killing end-user Hangouts in 2020: > > https://www.cnet.com/news/google-hangouts-gets-hung-out-to-dry-in-2020-report-says/ > > > > Some of us are irritated because we just moved off of AIM. I don’t care which > service it is, I just need it to work—my wife is housebound and uses it a lot > to communicate with me from her PC when I’m out and about. (Yes, > text-to-email works, but then she has to keep checking for responses in > email; Pidgin flashes/beeps). What else are people using that both Pidgin on > Windows and Android phones support? > > ___ > Support@pidgin.im mailing list > Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: > https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support ___ Support@pidgin.im mailing list Want to unsubscribe? Use this link: https://lists.pidgin.im/listinfo/support
