Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Robert Greene
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Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Eero Aro
Richard Dobson wrote: My own assumption when first discovering Ambsonics (public concert by electric Phoenix, and later via CDP, from the late 80s) was that it was purposed towards use in public diffusion Rob Alexander describes the beginnings of Ambisonics in Gerzon's biography:

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Robert Greene
One of the things that is emerging here is(dare I say so) that Ambisonics for music at home is just not such a good idea. Attractive though it is mathematically--and it is very much that-- it is really impractical for home music. Perhaps it is worthwhile to think for a moment about why. My

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/31/2012 04:35 AM, Robert Greene wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Fons Adriaensen wrote: The revival of the past ten years or so is largely the result of higher order becoming possible in practice, along with an interest from telecom companies rather than music producers. I am curious about

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Trond Lossius
In addition to everything else that has been stated in this thread already, I also believe we can think of consumer media technology as following two diverging strands, in particular from the 80s onwards. One is the high fidelity approach. High quality stereo reproduction systems, quadraphonic,

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Newmedia
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Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Dave Hunt
Hi, This thread brings up several things that have been discussed previously, and others have given good answers that cover why ambisonics has failed to enter the mainstream. Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 19:23:04 +0100 From: Peter Lennox p.len...@derby.ac.uk I don't even think it has failed -

Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 44, Issue 26

2012-03-31 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread David Pickett
At 05:30 31/03/2012, Eero Aro wrote: The Soundfield microphone didn't attract sound engineers because it was so expensive. In my experience, early models were also very fussy regarding output levels: either noisy or distorted. The expense kicks in when professionally one needs more than

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Eero Aro
David Pickett wrote: In my experience, early models were also very fussy regarding output levels: either noisy or distorted. As is common in Sursound, we are drifting out from the thread subject, but yes, tell me news. I tried to use a SFM for dialogue recording in the first half of the

[Sursound] Dissertation thoughts and another opinion

2012-03-31 Thread Eric Carmichel
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Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 31 March 2012 19:45 +0300 Eero Aro eero@dlc.fi wrote: it is really too bad that the one place where Ambisonics could help out in commonplace daily life--namely, in how to mix stereo to three (or more) frontal channels, that there is not a cheap easy simple standalone unit to do just

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Paul Hodges
--On 31 March 2012 12:53 -0400 newme...@aol.com wrote: Music of the ordinary sort is in front . . . Yes it is! Which is why Ambisonics makes *no* sense for the FRONT in a musical reproduction system. Music of the ordinary sort being the music that's in front, I guess, making that a

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread David Pickett
At 14:04 31/03/2012, Eero Aro wrote: David Pickett wrote: In my experience, early models were also very fussy regarding output levels: either noisy or distorted. As is common in Sursound, we are drifting out from the thread subject Not really drifting: this is a very good reason why the SF

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread David Pickett
At 14:33 31/03/2012, Paul Hodges wrote: --On 31 March 2012 12:53 -0400 newme...@aol.com wrote: Music of the ordinary sort is in front . . . Yes it is! Which is why Ambisonics makes *no* sense for the FRONT in a musical reproduction system. Music of the ordinary sort being the music

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Eero Aro
David Pickett wrote: One of the most exciting recordings I have is the Tallis Scholars' later version of the Allegri Miserere Here is another great performance and recording: 2L29SACD Ensemble 96 IMMORTAL NYSTEDT http://www.2l.no/ Amazing! Not Ambisonics, not SFM. Eero

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Peter Lennox
Further to my last, Cara - can I suggest the following? ask the members of the list here for specific criticisms of ambisonics -what works, what doesn't work, what difficulties they encounter, how they might improve things - both practical and fanciful. They are, after all, experts. Such a

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

2012-03-31 Thread Robert Greene
I did not say it should(be played in front)! It just is. Of course there are instances when antiphonal effects are used, and very well they can work too. But I think that using this sort of thing as a way to persuade people they ought to have 16 channels of playback or something is wrong