Re: [Sursound] Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
On 14 Apr 2012, at 04:46, JEFF SILBERMAN ambis...@pacbell.net wrote: The solution lies in getting the home/spec builder industry to integrate in-wall loudspeakers at pre-specified locations (including ceiling) in the 21st century media room which room will become the new normal much like

Re: [Sursound] Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Richard Dobson
On 14/04/2012 04:27, JEFF SILBERMAN wrote: .. soundstage envelopment and spaciousness)! Indeed, I would never replace my 3 front loudspeakers with a quadrilateral layout. Why three-speaker stereophony never became an end in itself is a mystery to me. It is not nearly as financially and

[Sursound] Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Ambisonx
I still claim that 3 loudspeakers would have been an easier sell than 5.1! If I am not mistaken, I do believe there were a handful of 3-channel symphonic DVD's recorded with the 3 omni mic technique. In my experience, most 5.1 users correctly position the L/C/R loudspeakers, more or less. The

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Paul Hodges wrote: --On 13 April 2012 03:08 +0100 Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: I am not sure that any form of surround will make it into the home, I have quite a lot of commercial surround music recordings, on 5.1 media. However, because of my recording activities, my

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: UHJ is simple and convenient, because people can buy it as a regular stereo track like the rest of the music. No pop-up with a choice: stereo or surround version, no playlists where one has to make sure the stereo version ends up on the iPod, and the surround

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: So who cares about bandwidth and storage? But even if these other issues were moot, bandwidth and storage remain at a premium, because my iPad holds only 64GB, and the iPhone's music download over 3G or 4G has a rather hefty price tag. Yes, but your next iPad

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Stefan Schreiber
Robert Greene wrote: I was not objecting to high order for production. But it is never going to fly in playback terms. Everyone takes for granted (I assume) that people can and often do things to make recordings that do not happen at the playback end. (How many consumers know Protools?) That

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Dave Hunt
Hi, Generally I totally agree with Ronald C.F. Antony and Robert Greene. Ambisonics is useful and pleasing, even at first order. Until that gets out of the starting blocks into more widespread use it will remain a minority pursuit. I think all on this list would agree that this is

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please? New Title and questions...

2012-04-14 Thread Martin Leese
Ronald C.F. Antony r...@cubiculum.com wrote: On 12 Apr 2012, at 19:57, Martin Leese martin.le...@stanfordalumni.org wrote: ... The UK Government, through the National Research Development Corporation, strongly supported the development of Ambisonics; they paid for it. While the NRDC had

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
On 14 Apr 2012, at 16:47, Stefan Schreiber st...@mail.telepac.pt wrote: Ronald C.F. Antony wrote: UHJ is simple and convenient, because people can buy it as a regular stereo track like the rest of the music. No pop-up with a choice: stereo or surround version, no playlists where one has

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Richard Lee
can a tetrahedral mic be used to create a room (correction) impulse response in B format? and how? Yes. I can make a sensible attempt today for an Ambi rig spaced away from the walls as the HiFi pundits and other gurus have mandated for years. This however has near zero Wife Acceptance

[Sursound] Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread JEFF SILBERMAN
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Re: [Sursound] Spatial music

2012-04-14 Thread Ronald C.F. Antony
On 15 Apr 2012, at 02:14, JEFF SILBERMAN ambis...@pacbell.net wrote: Are things really that bad? I need to get out more often! I'm thinking that the 99% own flatscreens by now. If a homebuilder is going to place an electrical outlet on the wall suitable for mounting a flatscreen, he might