Thanks for the correction. I will update the discography
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From: Sursound [mailto:sursound-boun...@music.vt.edu] On Behalf Of Eero Aro
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:08 AM
To: sursound@music.vt.edu
Subject: Re: [Sursound] [Bulk] Re: 45J recordings - did they / do they
exist?
Richard wrote:
> The BBC Proms CD is questionable. Tried one track and it certainly
> wasn't Matrix H. Would love to know who claimed it was H encoded.
I think I'm the quilty one. Mark and I sometimes put releases in the list
just to try if someone comes up with a better information about them. And
now you did, after just slightly under 20 years from when Mark posted it.
Not bad,
eh? :-)
Mark could move the BBC records under the rumoured-and-definitely-not-
Ambisonics-category.
The Discography actually lists two Last Night releases:
- BBC Singers, BBC Symphony Chorus, BBC Symphony Orchestra, -
Highlights from the Last Night of the Proms, cond. Sir Charles
Groves, James Loughran. Live from the Royal Albert Hall, BBC
Records CD 58OX (England), H-matrix. Tracks 1-2 recorded in
Sept. 1977,Tracks 3-7 recorded 1982.
The recordings on this CD conducted by Charles Groves were
originally released on vinyl as "Highlights from the Last
Night of the Proms" issued as BBC Records REH290.
- Colin Davis - at the Last Night of the Proms. Philips 6588-011
(LP) This was the original release of the 1972 Proms concert.
The CD with the same title appears to contain only a portion of
the selections from the original lp [some of selections
duplicate the 1969 recording but were performed again in 1972].
http://www.surrounddiscography.com/uhjdisc/uhjhtm.htm#Various
I have the two CD:s, which are re-releases of vinyl LP:s. I might have one
LP as well, although I would need to dig it out.
My guess about the encoding was based on the fact that IBA made H-Matrix
test radio transmissions during the same years, as those concerts were
recorded.
I know, that there is just a tiny small possibility that a recording would
have been made after an encoder, but then again, if it was a surround
recording, where else would you take a two channel output than after the
encoder?
I should now also dig out the magazine articles about the IBA tests.
They are in
the Motherlode, but Mother only knows, by which name.
I did listen to the recordings both with an H-matrix and a UHJ decoder back
in the nineties. They didn't sound bad at all to me as decoded. But now that
we have a larger group of fresh ears, we can re-listen and decide whether
they are Ambisonics or not.
Please pay attention to that the re-releases contain tracks from different
years.
To your original question; I don't know of any 45J releases.
Eero
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