Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-28 Thread dave . malham
Hang on, hang on - if the electrons exceed the speed of light then either a: their mass will go infinite and the cable will implode into a mini black hole or b: they will decay into tachyons resulting in the sound coming out of the speaker before it has even been recorded Dav M. On

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-28 Thread dave . malham
Arghhh - I shouldn't have let this out of the bag - there's clearly a _massive_ EU research funding opportunity here - now, how do I go about obtaining time on the large Hadron Collider??? Dave M. On Jul 28 2011, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: Hang on, hang on - if the electrons exceed

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-28 Thread David Worrall
a: in the northern hemisphere - because there are more people (masses- Kyrie Eleison!) and b: in the southern hemisphere - which is why the electroacoustic music is so 'advanced' there drw On 28/07/2011, at 4:50 PM, dave.mal...@york.ac.uk wrote: Hang on, hang on - if the electrons exceed

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-28 Thread umashankar mantravadi
To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!) Arghhh - I shouldn't have let this out of the bag - there's clearly a _massive_ EU research funding opportunity here - now, how do I go about obtaining time on the large Hadron Collider

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-28 Thread Robert Greene
All of this arises in my view from two simple things: 1 People in audio do not check things double blind and 2 People in audio do not normalize things for frequency response and do not do precision measurements of frequency response. Point 1 is obvious. About point 2: Small shifts in frequency

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-28 Thread Neil Waterman
The review comments on Amazon for the Audio Quest K2 speaker cable are very entertaining in the most: http://www.amazon.com/AudioQuest-K2-terminated-speaker-cable/product-reviews/B000J36XR2/ Certainly more interesting than some dubious pseudo-expert 'review' - Neil On 7/28/2011 1:03 PM,

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread Neil Waterman
I wrote the following as a guide for internal use at my work-place a few years back: One don't that I hold close is this: Don't be mislead by the many snake oil and, smoke and mirrors cable vendors that seem to imbue speaker cables with magical (and astronomically expensive) properties. No

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread Richard
@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!) I wrote the following as a guide for internal use at my work-place a few years back: One don't that I hold close is this: Don't be mislead by the many snake oil and, smoke and mirrors cable vendors

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread umashankar mantravadi
but of course ! umashankar i have published my poems. read (or buy) at http://stores.lulu.com/umashankar From: zoanne...@yahoo.co.uk To: sursound@music.vt.edu Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:26:47 +0100 Subject: Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!) Oh dear

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread Richard
Surely a Duracell would be perfect for the job, I mean, it does wonders for that rabbit... The problem with using a cheap battery for doing this is that those electrons which are really not able to move anymore (for example those having a broken leg, the result of smashing into

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread Michael Chapman
Am I missing something? You send electrons and the speaker cone moves out, o.k. It comes back by itself. But surely you want it to move _in_ as well? How do you do that without positrons. (I think that's right, most things in surround sound seem counter-intuitive: So I doubt if it is positrons

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread Robert Greene
I found this message really intriguing since the rabbit is really in an ad for Energizer batteries not Duracell. One wonders why advertising is useful! I have had exactly the same experience. The ads are memorable, but what they are ads FOR is not. Better than the original--who can forget the

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread dave . malham
If you have a suitable LiOn battery pack, shorting the terminals out with the cable perks up most the tired electrons - and the subsequent explosion will remove any that are too far gone... On Jul 27 2011, Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2011-07-27, umashankar mantravadi wrote: havent you heard of

Re: [Sursound] Distance perception (really speaker wire discussion!)

2011-07-27 Thread David Worrall
I have been browsing this list long enough to observe that this phenomena only occurs (or at least is only reported, on this list, albeit with annual regularity) in Northern Hemisphere summers. Down under, the summers are so hot that the electrons want to pass through cable as quickly as