Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

Good. I'm saving money, as I don't need the new glasses after all. :-) Eero Martin Kantola wrote: Eero Aro skrev 15.11.2013 19:46: Now that I look at the not-so-good-resolution photo on Martin's page, I can see that it is 6 pins. The proto was indeed 6-pin, but the production model is 5-pi

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

Eero Aro skrev 15.11.2013 19:46: Now that I look at the not-so-good-resolution photo on Martin's page, I can see that it is 6 pins. The proto was indeed 6-pin, but the production model is 5-pin XLR, so Eero was correct. Martin ___ Sursound ma

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

Ok Now that I look at the not-so-good-resolution photo on Martin's page, I can see that it is 6 pins. 6-pin XLR:s have been used for "dual channel intercom systems and stage lighting control applications" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XLR_connector#Six_pin I must get new reading glasses. Doh!

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

Eero did not hold a prototype. I did hold a prototype several years ago. I'm a little bit surprised that the type of a connector is the most important thing that raises discussion about a new B-format microphone in Sursound. The easiest way to get information is to contact Martin directly: h

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 11/14/2013 03:31 PM, Eero Aro wrote: ... >> Just by the accident, I visited an Audio-Visual Fair in the Helsinki >> Fair Centre this afternoon and had a chat with Martin, who has >> designed the microphone. >> >> I actually held the microphone in my hand. There was

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 04:56:49PM +, Paul Hodges wrote: > 1 ground > 2 power > 3 W+, X-, Y- > 4 W-, X+, Y- > 5 W-, X-, Y+ > > then > > W is (3, 0.5(4+5)) > X is (4, 0.5(3+5)) > Y is (5, 0.5(3+4)) > > That's better; things cancel out properly that way. Shouldn't that be W is (3, 0.5 (4,

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

Just like patenting aspects of the iPhone works with prior art of mobile phones and computers. For all we know they patented a user interface aspect of their processing software ;) Ronald On 14 Nov 2013, at 04:59, Jon Honeyball wrote: > And how does "The patented technology allows pickup pola

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

At 17:35 14-11-13, umashankar manthravadi wrote: >I can imagine building this with two dual diaphragm condenser >capsules. horizontal only ambisonics. you can buy matched high quality >pairs of dual diaphragm capsules. I am currently doing this in one mic body. Previously I successfully record

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--On 14 November 2013 16:56 + Paul Hodges wrote: > That's better; things cancel out properly that way. Argh - no they don't; I'll stop doing this in my head while working on something completely different! Sorry for the noise. Paul -- Paul Hodges ___

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--On 14 November 2013 16:34 + Paul Hodges wrote: > I'm picturing the pins carrying: No, I've done that wrong; but something along those lines should work: OK 1 ground 2 power 3 W+, X-, Y- 4 W-, X+, Y- 5 W-, X-, Y+ then W is (3, 0.5(4+5)) X is (4, 0.5(3+5)) Y is (5, 0.5(3+4)) That's bett

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

> Subject: Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone! > > On 11/14/2013 04:42 PM, umashankar manthravadi wrote: > > if you feed the figure of eights to a mixer you can actually generate > > a better Omni. > > now i'm confused. > fig8s can never be combined t

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

--On 14 November 2013 20:38 +0530 umashankar manthravadi wrote: > one ground pin, two figure of eights with one or both receiving > phantom voltage, and two pins, one from each figure of eight, out of > phase for the Omni. I'm picturing the pins carrying: 1 ground 2 power 3 W+, 0.5X-, 0.5 Y- 4

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

netti...@stackingdwarves.net > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone! > > On 11/14/2013 04:42 PM, umashankar manthravadi wrote: > > if you feed the figure of eights to a mixer you can actually generate > > a better Omni. > > now i'm c

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

At 12:31 14-11-13, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: >I think I rememeber it is horizontal only and using xy cardeoids and >syntesising the omni signal by taking the singals and adding with >phase inverign for 2 signals. If I understand you correctly, you are suggesting that hoizontal ambisonic (alias pa

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

s, but all four pins summed is a good Omni. I built my Velan, a six cardioid native B format mic, where all six capsules contribute to the Omni. umashankar Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:28:12 +0100 From: netti...@stackingdwarves.net To: sursound@music.vt.edu Subject: Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format

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, where all six capsules contribute to the Omni. umashankar > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:28:12 +0100 > From: netti...@stackingdwarves.net > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone! > > On 11/14/2013 04:08 PM, umashankar manthravadi wrote:

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

On 11/14/2013 04:08 PM, umashankar manthravadi wrote: one ground pin, two figure of eights with one or both receiving phantom voltage, and two pins, one from each figure of eight, out of phase for the Omni. you mean the omni will be a phantom circuit? oh my god, i only hope he can tame the de

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

one ground pin, two figure of eights with one or both receiving phantom voltage, and two pins, one from each figure of eight, out of phase for the Omni. umashankar > Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:03:40 +0200 > From: eero@dlc.fi > To: sursound@music.vt.edu > Subject: Re: [Sursound

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

no separate control boxes. The output is standard 5 pin XLR. unbalanced outs in a microphone that expensive? please tell me it's just a typo, and you meant to say 7pin lemo or something like that :-D Martin says all three channels are balanced. He told me to think about how he's done that. I

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

On 11/14/2013 03:31 PM, Eero Aro wrote: Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: I think I rememeber it is horizontal only I can confirm that. Just by the accident, I visited an Audio-Visual Fair in the Helsinki Fair Centre this afternoon and had a chat with Martin, who has designed the microphone. I actuall

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote: I think I rememeber it is horizontal only I can confirm that. Just by the accident, I visited an Audio-Visual Fair in the Helsinki Fair Centre this afternoon and had a chat with Martin, who has designed the microphone. I actually held the microphone in my hand. There w

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone! And how does "The patented technology allows pickup polar patterns and direction to be freely adjusted,even after the actual recording event (in mixdown)² work with prior art from the sound field? Jon On 14/11/20

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

november 2013 10:44 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone! Anyone have it and can tell us how it sounds? Are the capsules in a tetraedical position? Thanks. Emanuele On 13/11/2013 20:00, Daniel Courville wrote: > <http://www.nu47.com/NU-88

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

And how does "The patented technology allows pickup polar patterns and direction to be freely adjusted,even after the actual recording event (in mixdown)² work with prior art from the sound field? Jon On 14/11/2013 09:43, "Emanuele" wrote: >Anyone have it and can tell us how it sounds? >Are th

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Anyone have it and can tell us how it sounds? Are the capsules in a tetraedical position? Thanks. Emanuele On 13/11/2013 20:00, Daniel Courville wrote: ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.m

Re: [Sursound] New native B-Format microphone!

No problem with the concept: I am working on one myself. But the price... EUR 4.500 ($5,900) ??? What are the transducers? The diameter is about 20 mm and it looks like it might be two ribbons. David At 21:00 13-11-13, Daniel Courville wrote: > > > >

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