Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-25 Thread Joseph Anderson
Hello David, This sounds great! Congrats in getting the resources together to make this happen. I see there have been a number of comments regarding possible set ups--I'll add a few thoughts here as I've been thinking about putting together a 2nd order system. I was thinking of something alon

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-25 Thread Benoît Gauduin
Fons Adriaensen a écrit : >On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:29:02PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: >> On 03/24/2011 09:21 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >> >>> With just 2 more speakers (4 + 6 + 4 + 1) you would not only have >>> better first order but also the option to reproduce in full 2nd >>> order

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread david monacchi
oops I sent a wrong mail to the group.. furthermore in italian .-) Thank you for your advices and time Jorn, we'll keep these concerns in mind, and will discuss the various arrays' options with colleagues here... .. now running best, David > On 03/24/2011 04:15 PM, david monac

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread david monacchi
Eugenio, ti giro anche questa, teniamola lì per quando dovremo prendere la decisione.. questo è uno in gamba.. david > On 03/24/2011 04:15 PM, david monacchi wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> we're planning to build in Pesaro-Italy a small ambisonic studio with >> 13 loudspeakers (full 3D - 4@-45°, 4@0°

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 10:11:15PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 03/24/2011 10:02 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:29:02PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: >>> out of curiosity: in what way is such a layout superiour to a >>> dodecahedron (with speakers on the faces,

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/24/2011 10:02 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:29:02PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: out of curiosity: in what way is such a layout superiour to a dodecahedron (with speakers on the faces, not the vertices)? It's marginally better for horizontal directions, and wo

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:29:02PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > On 03/24/2011 09:21 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: > >> With just 2 more speakers (4 + 6 + 4 + 1) you would not only have >> better first order but also the option to reproduce in full 2nd >> order - assuming the right decoder. > > o

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/24/2011 09:21 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: With just 2 more speakers (4 + 6 + 4 + 1) you would not only have better first order but also the option to reproduce in full 2nd order - assuming the right decoder. out of curiosity: in what way is such a layout superiour to a dodecahedron (with

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 04:15:22PM +0100, david monacchi wrote: > > > Dear all, > > we're planning to build in Pesaro-Italy a small ambisonic studio with 13 > loudspeakers (full 3D - 4@-45°, 4@0°, 4@+45°, 1@90°).. We're now in the > process of moving walls, treating acoustically the room, etc.

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread Pierre Alexandre Tremblay
and to add to this, I can say that Jorn's examples in the SPIRAL were the first one to really convince me of the value of ambisonics... I always had bad decoders and/or low order experiences, and there was some clever filter design in a 3rd order setting... fantastic! p Le 2011-03-24 à 18:40, J

Re: [Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 03/24/2011 04:15 PM, david monacchi wrote: Dear all, we're planning to build in Pesaro-Italy a small ambisonic studio with 13 loudspeakers (full 3D - 4@-45°, 4@0°, 4@+45°, 1@90°).. knowing your field-recording work, i can see how you'd focus on first order, but i can't help noticing how 12

[Sursound] Reflections from the wodden floor on an ambisonic room..

2011-03-24 Thread david monacchi
Dear all, we're planning to build in Pesaro-Italy a small ambisonic studio with 13 loudspeakers (full 3D - 4@-45°, 4@0°, 4@+45°, 1@90°).. We're now in the process of moving walls, treating acoustically the room, etc.. The room will be 5.00 x 4.60 x 3.20h and we are planning to treat it to be