Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
Hi Ray, On 05/22/2013 01:24 AM, revery wrote: Hello jörn, Thinking about what you say here, is this working by having pure M from the front and S from 90 degrees to the side, effectively 'mixing' the M S signals in the air as they reach the ears/brain? (Maybe I'm thinking about this too much,

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-22 Thread Robert Greene
Didn't Lauridsen propose and experiment with stereo playback done this way--with a mono signal in the center and a diffference signal produced by a edgeon mounted dipole? Robert On Wed, 22 May 2013, J?rn Nettingsmeier wrote: Hi Ray, On 05/22/2013 01:24 AM, revery wrote: Hello j?rn,

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-21 Thread revery
Hello jörn, Thinking about what you say here, is this working by having pure M from the front and S from 90 degrees to the side, effectively 'mixing' the M S signals in the air as they reach the ears/brain? (Maybe I'm thinking about this too much, my brain is hurting.) If so, is there

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-19 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 05/08/2013 07:38 AM, revery wrote: I have a question on the decoding MS recordings, for instance just 2 channel, by using an ambisonic decoder to create the stereo. Am I off the track here? Would an elaborate MS to ambisonic converter be required, or maybe just a level change between M and

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-16 Thread Justin Bennett
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Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-13 Thread Justin Bennett
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Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-11 Thread revery
Thank you all for your replies. I can see now that my questions was not expressed at all well and somewhat sparsely, so thanks for the efforts made to respond, they have been very helpful. Originally I was intrigued that in discussions on Ambisonics, Mid-Side doesn't seem to feature much even

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-09 Thread Augustine Leudar
I dont understand the question either ! Does MS stand for mono/stereo ? Not naive enough for my liking On 8 May 2013 20:31, Martin Leese martin.le...@stanfordalumni.org wrote: revery wrote: I have a question on the decoding MS recordings, for instance just 2 channel, by using an

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-09 Thread Peter Lennox
[augustineleu...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 May 2013 09:41 To: Surround Sound discussion group Subject: Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics I dont understand the question either ! Does MS stand for mono/stereo ? Not naive enough for my liking On 8 May 2013 20:31, Martin Leese martin.le

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-09 Thread Aaron Heller
Helmut Wittek gave a paper Tonmeistertagung 2006 that discusses the relationship between Schoeps Double-MS and Ambisonic B-format. http://hauptmikrofon.de/HW/TMT2006_Wittek_DoubleMS_neutral.pdf English translation here: http://www.schoeps.de/documents/SCHOEPS_Double_MS_paper_E_2010.pdf

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-09 Thread Justin Bennett
revery wrote: I have a question on the decoding MS recordings, for instance just 2 channel, by using an ambisonic decoder to create the stereo. Am I off the track here? Would an elaborate MS to ambisonic converter be required, or maybe just a level change between M and S? My purpose is to

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-09 Thread Justin Bennett
You can always record an omni along with your MS mic and get horizontal B-format! only, of course, if you are using 2x figure-of-8 mics, or a double MS set up. I was a bit quick with the send button there. best, Justin Justin Bennett jus...@justinbennett.nl www.justinbennett.nl

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-09 Thread Scott Sherk
revery wrote: I have a question on the decoding MS recordings, for instance just 2 channel, by using an ambisonic decoder to create the stereo. Am I off the track here? Would an elaborate MS to ambisonic converter be required, or maybe just a level change between M and S? My purpose is to

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-09 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2013-05-09, Justin Bennett wrote: You can always record an omni along with your MS mic and get horizontal B-format! only, of course, if you are using 2x figure-of-8 mics, or a double MS set up. Theoretically it works with a pair of cardioids (XY; call them a and b), the Blumlein pair

[Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

2013-05-07 Thread revery
I have a question on the decoding MS recordings, for instance just 2 channel, by using an ambisonic decoder to create the stereo. Am I off the track here? Would an elaborate MS to ambisonic converter be required, or maybe just a level change between M and S? My purpose is to be able use say