Re: [Sursound] Sennheiser Ambeo + compare sound quality.

2016-09-15 Thread David Pickett 

Thanks: I will investigate.  I have had to make do with my ears up to now!

David

At 10:26 15-09-16, Bo-Erik Sandholm wrote:
>If you want to see in the form of graphs why the LP sounds better, you can
>try this software recording analyser.
>
>http://www.lts.a.se/lts/masvis
>
>It shows you in graphs how the recording engineer and mostly the mastering
>engineers have done their job.
>It's interesting to compare different releases of famous and well known
>recordings, and what's happened over time.
>
>Bo-Erik
>
>On 15 Sep 2016 10:13, "David Pickett"  wrote:
>
>What we are seeing is that large companies, who in the past would not have
>paid royalties to make a Soundfield type of microphone, which might have
>supported development of Ambisonics, are now jumping on the band-waggon of
>VR because they hope that there may be big money in it.  I suppose also
>that the people in those companies who had a "not invented here and
>therefore a waste of time" attitude have now retired and corporate memory
>has forgotten the 1970s.
>
>One does not need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that "big audio
>business" ensured that Ambisonics went to the wall, and is now trying to
>make money out of it.  With hindsight, one can see that it was the same
>with the analog/digital transition.  In 1982, aided by poor quality control
>of LP manufacturing, the CD was supposed to provide "perfect sound
>forever"; and nowadays companies are trying to sell punters yet another
>incarnation of "Kind of Blue" and other classics in both hi-res AND
>expensive vinyl formats.
>
>It has been a salutary experience for me in the past year to buy
>musty-smelling LPs, manufactured in the 1960s, from second hand record
>stores at knock down prices of around 2 pounds (or 3 EUR) and to discover
>that they play on my old Thorens TD124 WITHOUT pops, clicks and crackles,
>and with a sound quality that is as good as, and in some cases, audibly
>better than the CD or Bluray-Audio reissues of the same recordings.
>
>David
>
>
>At 09:17 15-09-16, Dave Malham wrote:
>>Looks like this is going to be pushed at the AES LA show in a couple of
>>weeks - they have a nice picture of it in an advert in the newsletter
>>that's come out about the show. So, that means (at least) four commercial
>>sources of soundfield type mics now - only 41 years after I saw my very
>>first one at the London AES in 1975.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>As of 1st October 2012, I have retired from the University.
>>
>>These are my own views and may or may not be shared by the University
>>
>>Dave Malham
>>Honorary Fellow, Department of Music
>>The University of York
>>York YO10 5DD
>>UK
>>
>>'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio'
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Re: [Sursound] Sennheiser Ambeo + compare sound quality.

2016-09-15 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm 
If you want to see in the form of graphs why the LP sounds better, you can
try this software recording analyser.

http://www.lts.a.se/lts/masvis

It shows you in graphs how the recording engineer and mostly the mastering
engineers have done their job.
It's interesting to compare different releases of famous and well known
recordings, and what's happened over time.

Bo-Erik

On 15 Sep 2016 10:13, "David Pickett"  wrote:

What we are seeing is that large companies, who in the past would not have
paid royalties to make a Soundfield type of microphone, which might have
supported development of Ambisonics, are now jumping on the band-waggon of
VR because they hope that there may be big money in it.  I suppose also
that the people in those companies who had a "not invented here and
therefore a waste of time" attitude have now retired and corporate memory
has forgotten the 1970s.

One does not need to be a conspiracy theorist to see that "big audio
business" ensured that Ambisonics went to the wall, and is now trying to
make money out of it.  With hindsight, one can see that it was the same
with the analog/digital transition.  In 1982, aided by poor quality control
of LP manufacturing, the CD was supposed to provide "perfect sound
forever"; and nowadays companies are trying to sell punters yet another
incarnation of "Kind of Blue" and other classics in both hi-res AND
expensive vinyl formats.

It has been a salutary experience for me in the past year to buy
musty-smelling LPs, manufactured in the 1960s, from second hand record
stores at knock down prices of around 2 pounds (or 3 EUR) and to discover
that they play on my old Thorens TD124 WITHOUT pops, clicks and crackles,
and with a sound quality that is as good as, and in some cases, audibly
better than the CD or Bluray-Audio reissues of the same recordings.

David


At 09:17 15-09-16, Dave Malham wrote:
>Looks like this is going to be pushed at the AES LA show in a couple of
>weeks - they have a nice picture of it in an advert in the newsletter
>that's come out about the show. So, that means (at least) four commercial
>sources of soundfield type mics now - only 41 years after I saw my very
>first one at the London AES in 1975.
>
> Dave
>
>
>--
>
>As of 1st October 2012, I have retired from the University.
>
>These are my own views and may or may not be shared by the University
>
>Dave Malham
>Honorary Fellow, Department of Music
>The University of York
>York YO10 5DD
>UK
>
>'Ambisonics - Component Imaging for Audio'
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