RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
Thanks Keith, Only joined this group about 2 weeks ago and there is so much info I'd forgotten about Aleks Kac's Foolproof method till you reminded me. Have just copied and printed it will investigate how it can be applied to palm oil on a fairly large scale perhaps. Hanns -Original

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
I recently read this: If it is one of the recent engines that uses fuel injection, you will not be able to alternati ly fuel the engine. Alternative fuels may have contaminants that will cause injector problems. on http://outlands.tripod.com/farm/s01.htm Is this true? Michael Dewolf

[biofuel] energy budget ?'s

2001-05-17 Thread Freed
Hi Folks, Does anyone know a good source of energy statistics? I am interested particularly in what % of US energy use is used in cars and trucks. (I heard 75% somewhere.) How much more is used to make and service them? Sheesh! I had a look around but there is so much stuff to sort through. They

[biofuel] LAXative?

2001-05-17 Thread David Teal
Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) announced Monday that it will start turning its food waste into electricity through a six-month pilot program. The airport currently ships as much as 7,800 tons of food waste to landfills each year. Through the new pilot program, the waste will instead be

[biofuel] EREN Network News -- 5/16/01

2001-05-17 Thread Kevin Eber
= EREN NETWORK NEWS -- May 16, 2001 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy Network (EREN). http://www.eren.doe.gov/ = Featuring: *News

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
I recently read this: If it is one of the recent engines that uses fuel injection, you will not be able to alternati ly fuel the engine. Alternative fuels may have contaminants that will cause injector problems. on http://outlands.tripod.com/farm/s01.htm Is this true? Michael Dewolf I think

[biofuel] Re Volvo UK and biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
Received from Terry de Winne - he's got Volvo UK to withdraw their previous ridiculous press release to the effect that biodiesel would destroy the world and kill us all, or whatever. But I've seldom seen a more begrudging retraction, and just plain wrong too. See next message. Please keep a

[biofuel] Re Volvo UK and biodiesel - 2

2001-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
This is Terry's press release on the Volvo fiasco. Biofuels Northern Ireland Ltd T L de Winne MF - Company Secretary 6 Coyle's Lane, Ballyrobert, Bangor, Co. Down, BT19 1UF 028 91 853318 www.biofuels.fsnet.co.uk PRESS RELEASE AND INFORMATION FOR EDITORS Date of issue 16 May 2001 No embargo

RE: [biofuel] energy budget ?'s

2001-05-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freed [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Folks, Does anyone know a good source of energy statistics? I am interested particularly in what % of US energy use is used in cars and trucks. (I heard 75% somewhere.) How much more is used to make and service them? Sheesh! Another number that I have been

[biofuel] Ethanol + Biodiesel = Gasoline?

2001-05-17 Thread Gandalf
Might there be a way to combine ethanol and biodiesel such that the result could be used in gasoline engines? Any thoughts? -Brian E. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is

Re: [biofuel] energy budget ?'s

2001-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Folks, Does anyone know a good source of energy statistics? I am interested particularly in what % of US energy use is used in cars and trucks. (I heard 75% somewhere.) How much more is used to make and service them? Sheesh! I had a look around but there is so much stuff to sort through. They

Re: [biofuel] Caveat on Container Plants

2001-05-17 Thread Appal Energy
Todd - is this the technology or the application? If owned cooperatively by the farmers, the problem you describe would not occur, correct? Ed B. . Ed, Caveat on application. Granted, your summation of cooperative ownership is correct. This thought though. If a 1,500 gallon per

Re: [biofuel] Re Volvo UK and biodiesel - 2

2001-05-17 Thread NBT - E. Beggs
Good work, Terry! - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re Volvo UK and biodiesel - 2 This is Terry's press release on the Volvo fiasco. Biofuels Northern Ireland Ltd

Re: [biofuel] Re: Enzymes

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
Hi David, Thanks for doing that. I certainly thought it was worth the effort. The spelling of Woollatt with a double oo, a double ll, and a double tt is definitely right, as that is what is printed on and in the book in several places. Perhaps he has retired to suunier climes or is

[biofuel] TDI engines

2001-05-17 Thread ianwade
Is it possible to convert a TDI engine as well as one with prechabers or does it make no differrence. Thanks Jonathan [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] Caveat on Container Plants

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
Hi Todd et al, While I would agree with you Todd that modular plant design is the way to go I would also strongly advocate the concept of mobile units. When you say you would scrap about 98% of the idea of mobile processing I find I am at great variance with you on this . My

Re: [biofuel] Caveat on Container Plants

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
Hi Todd, These items you have listed below are perhaps the strongest reasons for the implementation of mobile plants. As such they may not represent excessive outlay for many farmers in the US but they certainly do in Asia and lots of other third world countries. Where mobile plants

Re: [biofuel] Re Volvo UK and biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
Keith, I agree with you and it hardly seems a retraction at all. If you notice the last paragraph they say Volvo cars advises a low grade mix (up to 5%) with diesel. Its a bit like saying well we may be wrong but we are 95% sure we are right. The 3rd para from the end starting with

Re: [biofuel] Re Volvo UK and biodiesel - 2

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
Agreed Keith, Hands up those now buying or wanting to buy a Volvo car. B.r., David Good work, Terry! - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re Volvo UK

Re: [biofuel] TDI engines

2001-05-17 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/16/2001 12:56:13 PM Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: [biofuel] TDI engines Is it possible to convert a TDI engine as well as one with prechabers or does

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread Crabb, David
Diesels are a different matter. Their stoich. ratio varies from 14 to 1 up to 78 to one. Just about any combustible fuel will run a comression ignition engine. That's about it in a nutshell. Helpful? Joe Can you run gasoline in a diesel? I thought it would ignite before the

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread kirk
Injectors are high pressure. Fuel ignites as it is introduced. -Original Message- From: Crabb, David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 12:59 PM To: 'biofuel@yahoogroups.com' Subject: RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438 Diesels are a different matter. Their

Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
Hi Ron, Keith, Steve, Aleks, et al, At present I believe I have solved a number of problems associated with small fuel ethanol stills, and was about to bring a range of small stills out at the start of the year, after spending the previous 18

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can you run gasoline in a diesel?ÊÊ I thought it would ignite before the desired point in the compression stroke? or is the air compressed...Ê then the diesel added... and the diesel explodes witht he pressure?Ê odd.. since the pressure in the pump must be greater then the pressure in the

[biofuel] revised schematic

2001-05-17 Thread ian
Sorry people, I attached it to the last mail :( heres the url http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/reac1bMa.gif Ian Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

Re: [biofuel] Revised reactor schematic ver1bMa

2001-05-17 Thread ian
sorry, heres the link http://www.hammaskeep.demon.co.uk/reac1bMa.gif - Original Message - From: ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 9:57 PM Subject: [biofuel] Revised reactor schematic ver1bMa This is a new revised layout with some changes

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread Jeremy Shuey
--- Crabb, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diesels are a different matter. Their stoich. ratio varies from 14 to 1 up to 78 to one. Just about any combustible fuel will run a comression ignition engine. That's about it in a nutshell. Helpful? Joe Can you run

Re: [biofuel] Revised reactor schematic ver1bMa

2001-05-17 Thread david e cruse
Hi Ian, Excellent work ! Your efforts are greatly appreciated ! David Cruse - Original Message - From: ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Revised reactor schematic ver1bMa sorry, heres the link

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread Jeremy Shuey
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you run gasoline in a diesel?   I thought it would ignite before the desired point in the compression stroke? or is the air compressed...  then the diesel added... and the diesel explodes witht he pressure?  odd.. since the pressure in

Re: [biofuel] Revised reactor schematic ver1bMa

2001-05-17 Thread raymondteddybear
Please unsubscribe me. Thank you all the info that I've received. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

[biofuel] Stream is wrong

2001-05-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I really hate to tell you this, but, if you inject in a stream, you wouldn't have ignition. Injectors give of a mist or fog, persay. When you have a stream, it is not expanding all of the fuel properly and that is where you have loss of power, higher fuel consumption, etc etc etc. Same thing

[biofuel] Alcohol into biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread Pedro M.
Can one convert ( now or in the future ) alcohol into biodiesel ??. It«s only mind speculation . Thanks in advance. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread Douglas L. Murray Sr.
you can run up 30 % Gasoline in your diesel fuel, however you lose on your mileage. It is only used if you can't get a winter blend for your area. Doug -Original Message- From: Jeremy Shuey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:49 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread wljohnson
I would like to mention also that due to the design of some diesel fuel pumps, gasoline would not have the ability to properly lubricate the fuel pump parts. Diesel fuel is more viscid and due to the close mechanical tolerance of pump parts the proper lubrication is essential. Biofuel at

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread Douglas L. Murray Sr.
You are right but do to the cold weather the diesel has enough lub value, at least VW say that and I have a TDI with 230,000 on it and running strong. I still get 45 MPH and I have a heavy shoe. Doug -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread wljohnson
If it works I wouldn't change a thing. Thanks for the info. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-17 Thread zh24mij
Plentiful energy is currently the preserve of the rich (who waste it, mostly). For most of the world, successful water projects are very local, and low-tech. But there's no need to argue about which is more important, of course they're both important, and both problems are symptoms of an

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-17 Thread Freed
Hi Folks, I have been pondering this for years, and I was about to make a post tonight! And I just got my energy questions answered in the news letter! How do we go about equalizing things? It really is rational, since stability is more assured. There has to be a way somehow, but it requires

[biofuel] What We Need Is A Bottom-Up Energy Policy

2001-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
Published on Wednesday, May 16, 2001 in the http://www.startribune.com/Minneapolis Star Tribune What We Need Is A Bottom-Up Energy Policy by David Morris Vice President Dick Cheney has told us that to address the electricity crisis, the nation needs one new power plant a week for the next 20

Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread ronald miller sr
Thanks for your letter. I'm still trying to find the right size design for what I have in mind. Maybe I've been thinking to small as to still size. I have a 1993 corvette, a 2000 Isuzu Rodeo, a 1972 chevy chevelle, a mitsubishi mirage, a riding lawn mower and a push mower. I'm paying US $29.00

[biofuel] Geo conversion

2001-05-17 Thread Fischmann
Greetings: I have a 1993 Geo Metro that I am thinking about converting to Alcohol. Since it is fuel injected with all kinds of computer gadgets, do I still have to make any adjustments to the fuel system like I would a car with a carburetor? Any help you all could give me would be

Re: [biofuel] Re Volvo UK and biodiesel - 2

2001-05-17 Thread Biofuels
Volvo have had to accept the 5% addition - in France, the three main French refiners add 5% and Shell 2% biodiesel as compensatory lubricant, following the removal of the sulphur. They do not, however, give credit to biodiesel for this - the opposite, in fact, by claiming that maintenance costs

OT: inequality and inequity - was Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
Plentiful energy is currently the preserve of the rich (who waste it, mostly). For most of the world, successful water projects are very local, and low-tech. But there's no need to argue about which is more important, of course they're both important, and both problems are symptoms of an

Re: [biofuel] Water vs Energy Importance

2001-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
Oops, seems I've touched something off. :-/ Hi Folks, I have been pondering this for years, and I was about to make a post tonight! And I just got my energy questions answered in the news letter! How do we go about equalizing things? It really is rational, since stability is more assured. There

RE: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
Keith et al, One of the problems using palm oil might be its relatively high cost. The current (very low) FOB price in PNG is about $US240/tonne but it has gone as high as $US600/tonne in previous years. The cost of production is Indonesia is about $US127/tonne whilst in PNG it is about

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread steve spence
all diesels are fuel injected. this statement is not true in the case of diesel/biodiesel if you had an gas engine with injectors, it would be challenging to run a gaseous fuel like propane (but not impossible) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter:

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread steve spence
I have received info from racor on their 2 micron heated filter for $118/ US Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation -

Re: Distilling fuel ethanol - was Re: [biofuel] Tallow

2001-05-17 Thread David Reid
Ron, What you need to do is work out how much fuel you are going to use in a year and how much each month. Once you know this you can then work out how you are going to produce this. You then need to know how much time you are prepared to devote to distillation at anyone hit. Once you know

RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438

2001-05-17 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 438 Injectors are high pressure. Fuel ignites as it is introduced. Diesels are a different matter. Their stoich. ratio varies

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread Jeremy Shuey
Mr Spence, I am now very very curious. Give me an example of a diesel engine that doesn't have an injection system. Every diesel I have ever worked on has an injection system, weather it be mechanical or electrical. I guess in theory, you could charge the air, kinda like a carburator does for

[biofuel] Diesel survivalist - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread Michael DeWolf
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have received info from racor on their 2 micron heated filter for $118/ US The list that I am on that inspired my post is a Survivalist list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WWOODS. We are looking for technology that would run

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel Mr Spence, I am now very very curious. Give me an example of a diesel engine that doesn't have an injection

Re: [biofuel] Diesel engines - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread Don Bowen
Mr Spence, I am now very very curious. Give me an example of a diesel engine that doesn't have an injection system. Every diesel I have ever worked on has an injection system, weather it be mechanical or electrical. I guess in theory, you could charge the air, kinda like a carburator does for

Re: [biofuel] The MN Way

2001-05-17 Thread Dana Linscott
Keith, Mn has no energy resources save for wind, sun,and bio. We also have very long cold winters that give each MN citizen an annual and unavoidable high energy bill. However, in honor of Pres. Bush Jr. visit we also had a rolling blackout 3 days ago that shut down some schools and businesses

Re: [biofuel] Diesel survivalist - running on biodiesel

2001-05-17 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Michael David Reid mentioned a TR filter recently, means a toilet-roll filter. There's some info on them in the archives. Take a gander. By the way, guys, there are now 5368 messages in the archives. It's now a very useful resource, lots of depth. Shortly before we hit 5000, Yahoo