[biofuel] Re: magnets in fuel line.

2001-05-28 Thread dabbs
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "steve spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > the only thing going on is the begining of a scam. these numbers look like > an outright fabrication. > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > Renewable Energ

Re: [biofuel] FW: [Distillers] Continuous still ?

2001-05-28 Thread terry calmes
Sir, have you worked any more on you thoughts of a continuous still? If so I would love to know where you are at on the idea and if it would work on a small scale. Thank you ... terry calmes >From: "Ackland, Tony (CALNZAS)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: "'biofuel@

Re: [biofuel] Re: magnets in fuel line.

2001-05-28 Thread steve spence
The AFR was adjusted and a further > > test run performed. This time the engine went for 36 min. The AFR > was > > meassured as being 21.5/1. > > When the magnets where removed, with the engine still running, the > HC > > reading went up immidiately from 41ppm to 66 ppm. Something is > going > > o

[biofuel] Re: magnets in fuel line.

2001-05-28 Thread dabbs
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > It's amazing that the people still buy into the magnet stuff. The EPA > has test all the "magic magnet" devices and even some of > those "magicals metal ionizing pipes (just an aluminum pipe" and > other means of boosting you ecomony. The EP

Re: [biofuel] costs of ingredeints to produce biodiesel from rapeseed oil

2001-05-28 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
As I understand it NaOH always contains water and KOH does not. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to ht

Re: [biofuel] Re: Reclaiming the methanol

2001-05-28 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
Paul my next batch will be with cotton seed oil. I intend to use the twostage with KOH rather than NaOH. The best I can do with NaOH seems to be 80-85% pure, I suspect that leaves too much water to avoid soaps. I'll take your advice and wash and dry it. I'll let you know how it goes. The oil colle

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
Thanks for those references Keith, they will be very useful. I am in an unstable phase in regards to my position on Ecological Sustainability and population. If we are in fact in denial and consequentially get it wrong we and the rest of biodiversity may only survive in pockets, despite what WE do

Re: [biofuel] Reclaiming the methanol

2001-05-28 Thread Gary and Jos Kimlin
Paul, a filled reflux column will achieve a vapor separation, by managing the temperature at the top of the column the lowest boiling point substance may be extracted as a vapor for recovery in the condenser. By raising the temperature, sequential separation of a volatile mixture is possible. Ove

Re: [biofuel] Coconut Oil

2001-05-28 Thread tupai tupai
david surya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to all i heard about your coconut oil discussion i got informations that maybe can help. 1. copra contains 66.0 - 74.0 % oil 17.0 - 20.0 % carbohydrates 4.5 - 7.5 % protein 2.5 - 6.0 % water 4.5 - 6.0 % fiber 2.3 - 3.5 % ash 2. about fermentation

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel standard ????

2001-05-28 Thread steve spence
http://www.astm.org/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/DATABASE.CART/PAGES/PS121.htm?L+mys tore+nfyg5893+991076038 this is the source for ps 121 (it's $30 for a pdf download) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.we

Re: [biofuel] biodiesel standard ????

2001-05-28 Thread steve spence
this is a bit old, but might get you started: ASTM Ballot and Support FY99 Final Report Executive Summary FY99 was an extremely productive year in the area of ASTM Standards. The objectives and deliverables of the project have been met, and the issuance of the provisional standard for biodiesel

[biofuel] Re: Bio Quality Test?

2001-05-28 Thread Aleksander <kac
Hi James, > I've just completed my first 30 L of transesterified WVO. (Not yet > washed) It's golden brown, feels like petrodiesel and looks very > consistent. I wonder if there is any simple test I can execute at > this stage to confirm its properties as a diesel fuel. > Saludos - James There

Re: [biofuel] What about making engine oil?

2001-05-28 Thread steve spence
firemen, making alternative fuels. hmmm you guys like things that go bang as well? ;-) Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home

[biofuel] noise cancelling , was Re: DD question

2001-05-28 Thread jerry dycus
Hi All, --- beeteljeuse beelzebub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I have access to a generator powered with a DD > 2-71. Does anyone > >have any > > > experience with this engine? I have been told > it is pos

[biofuel] more on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
Subject: Re: More on Jerusalem artichokes Steve Spence wrote: "my father in law just plowed under 2 acres of Jerusalem artichokes. they keep coming up and he can't get rid of them :-(" The books do say that volunteer plants are a problem with all the sunflower family. Wish he could send the tub

Re: [biofuel] Bio Quality Test?

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
>I've just completed my first 30 L of transesterified WVO. (Not yet >washed) It's golden brown, feels like petrodiesel and looks very >consistent. I wonder if there is any simple test I can execute at >this stage to confirm its properties as a diesel fuel. >Saludos - James Best wash it first Jam

Re: [biofuel] costs of ingredeints to produce biodiesel from rapeseed oil

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Jan We have one reliable method for ethyl esters that uses potassium hydroxide (KOH). >Hi Keith and All, > >Does anyone knows the following: > >1) What are the costs of ingredients to produce biodiesel from >rapeseed oil ? > - methanol (I do suppose that there is about 27.7 litre

[biofuel] biodiesel standard ????

2001-05-28 Thread Jan Sur—wka
Hi to all, I have learned through the Slovak server (found on "google" by writing the word "bionafta" which stands in Slovak language for "biodiesel") that in Germany they use the standard for biodiesel DIN 51606. If the biodiesel conforms to this standard in can be commonly traded in German

Re: [biofuel] Bio Quality Test?

2001-05-28 Thread Jan Sur—wka
Hi James, I do not know the simple test to "qualify" your product as a fuel. but If your product could be used as fuel in Germany for example it should conform to the DIN (German) standard called DIN 51606. Which means that if your biodiesel conforms to this standard it is allowed to b

[biofuel] Bio Quality Test?

2001-05-28 Thread milliontc
I've just completed my first 30 L of transesterified WVO. (Not yet washed) It's golden brown, feels like petrodiesel and looks very consistent. I wonder if there is any simple test I can execute at this stage to confirm its properties as a diesel fuel. Saludos - James Biofuel at Journey to Fo

[biofuel] costs of ingredeints to produce biodiesel from rapeseed oil

2001-05-28 Thread Jan Sur—wka
Hi Keith and All, Does anyone knows the following: 1) What are the costs of ingredients to produce biodiesel from rapeseed oil ? - methanol (I do suppose that there is about 27.7 litres/100 litre of rapeseed oil) - potassium hydroxide (KOH) - it is 1.3 kg/100 litre of ra

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread Jan Sur—wka
Hi Harmon, I am not sure what do you mean by ultra prolific crops - but if you meant abundant energy resource here is one of the answers: straw - used for combustion in furnaces and boilers I do not know exactly where the idea of using it was first born, but certainly Denmark is a good

From ListMom- was Re: [biofuel] Fwd: Saving Gasoline and Money

2001-05-28 Thread k5farms
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can we end this thread now please? > > Keith Addison > Journey to Forever > Handmade Projects > Tokyo > http://journeytoforever.org/ > > Biofuel list owner Schools Schoolchildren are a special part of Journey to Forever -- thi

RE: [biofuel] Alcohol as an antifreeze?

2001-05-28 Thread kirk
My stepdad spent a little time in a garage in the Ford Model A days. He said wood alcohol was mixed in the water for the radiator but it was dangerous. If you looked in the radiator when it was hot you would get a facefull of methyl alcohol vapor. He said this could ruin your eyes. As to it being

Re: [biofuel] Swirl chamber diesel?

2001-05-28 Thread Jeremy Shuey
I can tell you that a diesel with a precombustion chamber is one where the diesel is injected into a bowel like container, and not directly into the cylinder. From there, it ignites. I maybe able to get a picture of a diesel engine from a tractor with this type of injection. Just email me and l

[biofuel] Re: magnets in fuel line.

2001-05-28 Thread ellisd
It's amazing that the people still buy into the magnet stuff. The EPA has test all the "magic magnet" devices and even some of those "magicals metal ionizing pipes (just an aluminum pipe" and other means of boosting you ecomony. The EPA only found one device based on magnets that show any diff

Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 465

2001-05-28 Thread Jeremy Shuey
Kinda reminds me of a commercial. Time for a bathroom break hehehe. ;-) --- Harmon Seaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Crabb, David" wrote: > > > I dont know about you .,.. but mine says.. > > "[Non-text portions of this message have been > removed]" > > > > So i assume those are the adverti

Re: [biofuel] What about making engine oil?

2001-05-28 Thread Jeremy Shuey
Hmmm So am I. Along with being a paramedic. Sounds scary all of a sudden. ;-) --- steve spence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you are welcome to. I'm a fireman, so all's well. > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > Renew

[biofuel] ENERGIES... week of 5/20/01

2001-05-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ENERGIES... week of May 20, 2001, LIVING CARBON NEUTRAL. In designing the Beddington Zero Energy Development - BedZED - every conceivable aspect of carbon emissions was considered - from construction through habitation. The 82 home community built on a brownfield in Sutton, south London

[biofuel] FWD: soap stock as boiler fuel

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
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Re: [biofuel] RE: magnets in fuel line.

2001-05-28 Thread beeteljeuse beelzebub
>From: "Crabb, David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: "'biofuel@yahoogroups.com'" >Subject: [biofuel] RE: magnets in fuel line. >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 15:42:17 -0400 > >theory as to why magnets work: > > > long hydrocarbon chains > > are being broken down to shor

[biofuel] Coconut Oil

2001-05-28 Thread Hanns B. Wetzel
To Marc de Piolenc Iligan, Lanao del Norte (Mindanao) Philippines Marc, And to everyone on this list, apologies because this message should really not be on here, but I do not know your email address, so that is why I'm sending it this way. Mine by the way is [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is are num

Re: [biofuel] Re: DD question

2001-05-28 Thread beeteljeuse beelzebub
> > > > >--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have access to a generator powered with a DD 2-71. Does anyone >have any > > experience with this engine? I have been told it is possible to >build a > > muffler that will work on a DD so the neighbors are n

Re: [biofuel] Alcohol as an antifreeze?

2001-05-28 Thread beeteljeuse beelzebub
>From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [biofuel] Alcohol as an antifreeze? >Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 02:38:40 +0900 > > > Greetings to everyone: > > It seems to me that before the advent of modern antifree

[biofuel] Re: Fictionless Polymer (was:Air and Fuel Ionizing?)

2001-05-28 Thread ellisd
Here an even better link for information. http://www.nsf.gov/od/lpa/news/press/00/pr0095.htm -Ellis http://www.geeklab.net/ellis/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an emai

[biofuel] Fictionless Polymer (was:Air and Fuel Ionizing?)

2001-05-28 Thread ellisd
http://www.newswise.com/articles/2000/12/POLYMER.NSF.html Here's one post about it. It should be interesting to see how well it would work when used with the moving parts of a car. Would definitely up the efficiency. -Ellis http://www.geeklab.net/ellis/ --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED

[biofuel] Re: Air and Fuel Ionizing?

2001-05-28 Thread ellisd
Yeah, that where the problems come in. You have to have an engine which can take that kind of heat. One thing I am looking forware to is the production of a new polymer which when used with Teflon will be basically frictionless agaisnt its self. If I can find the link to that story I will post

Re: [biofuel] Re: Air and Fuel Ionizing?

2001-05-28 Thread steve spence
hotter combustion is better efficiency, if the engine is designed for it. that's why ceramic engines are an interesting possibility. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages -

[biofuel] Re: Air and Fuel Ionizing?

2001-05-28 Thread ellisd
A more complete burn is good, but we don't wan the fuel to burn to hot. Basically, I was wondering about Fuel and Air ionizing, IE fuel being regular gasoline. Since I read over some pages here and there, which I think most were BS info, but if I was wondering if anyone has tried to hook up an

Re: [biofuel] Sugar Fuel

2001-05-28 Thread steve spence
weird. i wonder why, though, when soybean oil already is a decent fuel, without the fuss? Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Autom

[biofuel] Sugar Fuel

2001-05-28 Thread dabbs
This site may be of interest to some of you. http://www.urc.ukans.edu/News/96N/NovNews/Nov05/diesel.html Sam Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send "unsubscribe" messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [biofuel] Vinegar into oil

2001-05-28 Thread milliontc
Plenty of nubile English speaking women in this neck of the woods. Why not pop down and I'll arrange a few introductions.. James El Guiri To: From: "Pedro M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 22:23:16 +0200 Reply-to: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject:

Re: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread robert luis rabello
Keith Addison wrote: Draft horses > should work in the winter like everyone else, unless you really get > snowed up. The grazing systems I mentioned can go through the winter > in most climates short of far north, and you're not paying to feed > the horse, the feed isn't an extra cost, it's

Re: [biofuel] Re: Reclaiming the methanol

2001-05-28 Thread zh24mij
Paul, one vessel would be great, but poses (at first glance) two problems: Time and batch quantity, which is to say that you'd be producing a smaller batch over a longer period of time. Sure, it's compact, but for a garage operation I'd prefer a multi-barrel approach allo

Re: [biofuel] Cattail roots

2001-05-28 Thread Harmon Seaver
Well, I was looking at cattails 20-30 years ago, but never had time to do anything with it. I'm also interested in growing mushrooms on the reeds and/or using them for burning into woodgas. I've found a couple of references to oils extracted from cattail seeds, anybody know of any info on ye

Re: [biofuel] Re: Air and Fuel Ionizing?

2001-05-28 Thread steve spence
there are those that would have us believe you can get something for nothing, IE., the electric from the engine breaking down water into hydrogen to power the engine. bzzzt however, there are fuel enhancers that if injected into the engine can cause a hotter or more complete burn. geet is one of

[biofuel] Re: Air and Fuel Ionizing?

2001-05-28 Thread ellisd
I looked over that thread. It seems like what a lot of people are experimenting with. Turning water into a hydrogen and oxygen to be burnt by the engine. I've many designs of devices that "do this".. Reason for the quotes is becuase some of the devices I have seen make no real sense to me atle

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RE: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
>My impression on viewing the yield per acre of fuel from Jerusalem >artichokes is who needs horses? I only "feed" a tractor when I use it. A >draft horse eats more hay than 3 cows and thats all winter. Tractor just >sits there. No fuel needed till doing useful work. And much work people do >with

Re: [biofuel] Cattail roots

2001-05-28 Thread Keith Addison
> Cattail roots have high ethanol yeild potential, much >higher than J. artichokes, anybody doing this? I'm thinking >of a cattail/crayfish culture combo (in the South they do >rice/crayfish, but rice isn't feasible in the north). > > >http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Typha.html

[biofuel] Cattail roots

2001-05-28 Thread Harmon Seaver
Cattail roots have high ethanol yeild potential, much higher than J. artichokes, anybody doing this? I'm thinking of a cattail/crayfish culture combo (in the South they do rice/crayfish, but rice isn't feasible in the north). http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Typha.html#Energy

RE: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread kirk
Or eat them. They store food value as inulin not starch. I am told diabetics can eat them without the normal insulin reaction one gets from starch. An alternative to spuds. Kirk -Original Message- From: Harmon Seaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 8:32 AM To: biofue

RE: [biofuel] More on Jerusalem artichokes

2001-05-28 Thread kirk
My impression on viewing the yield per acre of fuel from Jerusalem artichokes is who needs horses? I only "feed" a tractor when I use it. A draft horse eats more hay than 3 cows and thats all winter. Tractor just sits there. No fuel needed till doing useful work. And much work people do with trac

[biofuel] Comfrey

2001-05-28 Thread Harmon Seaver
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/duke_energy/Symphytum_peregrinum.html > Yields and Economics > > Comfrey has a reported potential of 247 MT/ha of green fodder, but the > average is usually less than that figure, about 237 MT/ha reported from > England. Australia claims up to 250 MT/ha green