Hello everyone,
Anyone producing biodiesel in economical quantity? Maybe we can set up an
exchange for biodiesel made from different oil sources. Any reactions?
Ken
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COTTSDALE, Ariz. - When I discussed the exponential function in the
first-semester calculus classes that I taught, I invariably used consumption
of a
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Thanks, Steve...
...and I will beat Terry to the keyboard, and say that RVO is Recovered
Vegetable Oil, I think? We make waste a passe term...turning it into a
resource, like many other things once thought of as wastes that are now
resource foundation of new industries.
The list of terms and
Hello Hanns and all
Thanks for an interesting and informative post. I guess the milk
ferments via naturally present microorganisms (lacto bacteria?).
Re David Etherington, the process might suit the very small scale,
but the pricing certainly doesn't. I'm sure you're right that
larger-scale
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All food for thought
About what ought...
But is not.
Ed
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Straight Renewable Oil = SRO
Why I use the term:
- it is
All food for thought
About what ought...
But is not.
Too many acronyms
ought not
but is
It's not just food for thought, we're both of us doing this stuff.
And both getting somewhere - why I said to each his own. I would hate
to see all our diverse freelance efforts regimented in any way.
Re: SVO, SRO, etc. One thing I was taught in writing
class long, long ago -- if you use an acronym, you *ALWAY
definitely *MUST* write out the whole phrase along with it
in the very beginning of the piece, and maybe more than
once. Even very, very common terms like DNR. We all know
what
What's an MLIS?
:-) Ok, enough of this fun...
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Should work well if you can get the picture and its a decent one.
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I wonder if there's any possibility of
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And I'll admit that many of the acronyms I've seen
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I wonder if there's any possibility of getting hold of the picture of
the dog sticking it's nose up a bd Land Rover exhaust pipe.
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Hi Paul,
I read your plans for the bubble wash alternative.
I hope I'm wrong, but the windshield washer pump may
overheat if run continuously.
Jim,
Agree with you there Jim,
Got all the chemicals and a bucket of pure McDonald's waste veg oil. Will
be going thru the learning curve soon.
The methanol was real expensive, US$35 per 5gal drum.
Anyone got the price for methanol in bulk and the recovery rate of the home
made distiller.
Figured that the bulk price and
that 5 gallons of methanol will make 25 gallons of biodiesel. you really do
need a cheaper source of methanol.
race tracks will sell it at under $2 / gallon in 55 gallon drums.
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Hi, ssure I can convert this into energy,however I would need some more
information to make an educated judgement
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Mothers milk. No matter how you say it to decrease rate of increase and
ultimately the rate of usage, you need to make it more expensive in terms of
disposable income of the major user groups. This has the effect of making
fuel unavailable to the poor while increasing the flow on costs of most
I wonder if there's any possibility of getting hold of the picture of
the dog sticking it's nose up a bd Land Rover exhaust pipe.
James
It's here:
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Hi Gerry,
That sounds like you are paying too much
for the methanol. I don`t know where you are located,
but if you`re near a large city, try the yellow pages under
Chemicals. You should be able to find a supplier that
will give you a decent price. Here in Atlanta,Ga. I can
buy a
Re: SVO, SRO, etc. One thing I was taught in writing
class long, long ago -- if you use an acronym, you *ALWAY
definitely *MUST* write out the whole phrase along with it
in the very beginning of the piece, and maybe more than
once. Even very, very common terms like DNR. We all know
what
I wonder if there's any possibility of getting hold of the picture of
the dog sticking it's nose up a bd Land Rover exhaust pipe.
James
It's here:
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_nox.html
And there's a picture of someone drinking bioidiesel here (scroll
down to Good enough to drink):
ronald miller sr wrote:
Hi to all,
Does anyone out there know the process for removing water from ethanol using
3A zeolite. I know this is the material used by industry to do this but I'd
like to know the process. As I understand it this will remove all the water
content of distilled
Hanns,
The amount of liquid in the coconut deminishes as time goes by. Some of it
becomes part of the meat which will be the copra. But there is still
some liquid in a mature coconut. Processes oil by hand yields a very small
amount of oil, around 20 to 25 % if you are lucky(tried this in
We take the value of something on the short term basis of its supply and
demand. The value is relative and can change depending on how you look at
it. When everyone wants gas, price goes up. When we don't want it, it
goes down. We do not take into account the long term value of a resource.
Is
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that 5 gallons of methanol will make 25 gallons of biodiesel. you really
do
need a cheaper source of methanol.
race tracks will sell it at under $2 / gallon in 55 gallon drums.
Any bulk fuel distributor will be able to acquire 55 gallon drums of
methanol, if not already on hand.
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Dear listmates,
There has been traffic on both lists about the need to scale up
production of biofuels to economical levels, and that has triggered
much thinking on my part. Until now I, too, had been concentrating on
industrial scale processes - admittedly still not on a very large
industrial
Hanns Wetzel wrote:
Then there is the juice, which apparently gets thrown away. When the
coconut is still green, the juice (I refuse to call it milk) contains
much sugar.
Do not get coconut water or juice confused with milk. The milk is
expressed from the grated meat and contains oil, while the
Ken! Whether you dig it,grow it or catch it as sunlight. If there is an
exponential increase in the rate of use of energy it would need to come from
an infinite source at a potentially infinite rate, to be sustainable.
There is an absolute limit to Cultivatable land, one we reached at least 30
As I recall I used to use coconut juice as an enzyme source for plant tissue
culture when I was mericloning rare plants. The nutritional value is
probably what keeps the populations as healthy as they are.-Drink it.
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Excellent assessment! Works for First world pensioners too.
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Hi Martin
Hi,sure I can convert this into energy,however I would need some more
information to make an educated judgement
You could try running a zig zag copper pipe through it, pass water
through the pipe, which should warm it up.
james
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When you start to grow it. The real cost of a sustainable energy source is
taken into account. If we continue to look for cheap, free crude oil which
costs only the exploration and development cost plus profit. This is not
sustainable. It does not reflect the real cost of the resource. Cost
Bravo Marc! And thankyou!
A couple of things to add. Biodiesel may or may not be feasible at
the individual small-peasant level, but it will be feasible at the
next scale - a small-farmers' coop, perhaps. We need to know
something about using biodiesel instead of the kero in the coco-kero
Ken! Whether you dig it,grow it or catch it as sunlight. If there is an
exponential increase in the rate of use of energy it would need to come from
an infinite source at a potentially infinite rate, to be sustainable.
There is an absolute limit to Cultivatable land, one we reached at least 30
Ken! Whether you dig it,grow it or catch it as sunlight. If there is an
exponential increase in the rate of use of energy it would need to come
from
an infinite source at a potentially infinite rate, to be sustainable.
There is an absolute limit to Cultivatable land, one we reached at least
Great article in yesterday's Wall Street Journal about waste veggie oil. Price
is so low, companies are dumping it down sewers. Cost to remove / clean sewers
is enormous. Should be more than enough for biodiesel, and it helps clean up
another problem as well.
Looking forward to seeing more
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