Forgive me for the unsnipped thread attached to this letter- it seemed
important to place this in context.
Andrew,
What I don't understand is, why can't such your project be undertaken via
an existing forum like the biofuels-biz list itself? Why is a new list
necessary?
A little on lists and
I agree with most of what Haken says, You have been talking about it for
weeks, what about starting it. confucous says the journey of a thousand
miles starts with the first step.
- Original Message -
From: Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday,
Newer varieties of unleaded gasoline do not seem to leave the same
residue. Since the late 1970's / early 1980's all new gasoline
powered cars leaving Detroit are required to burn unleaded gas. So
the new fuel tanks are not coated with the same gunk as they were
before. These are 'old'
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:21:45 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
When I lived in Illinois in the late 70's, they had just started selling
Gassahol (10%eth, 90%gas), and I started using it. Within 2 months the
fuel filter clogged due to the tank clearing. Just replaced the fuel
filter and all was well.
Martin:
The author whose comments I was forwarding seems to be Earl Killian
at:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
He was posting to the RAV4_EV group.
Some further interesting comments on the case that Oil is affecting
U.S. foreign policy in untoward ways. I don't subscribe to all these
views, but I am
Very interesting. The inclusion of Genencor and Novozymes is
interesting because they're the sort of cellulosic sourcing that has
been mentioned (by DOE study) as make-or-break for getting
waste-to-ethanol going and making ethanol more economical in
California and elsewhere.
It was an
Hi Keith,
Very interesting book, I read it at the time. I recall a corporate
quip about Geneen which put his attitude in some perspective: Is
that a G as in 'God' or as in 'Jesus'? I don't think I ever found
out - which is it, Hakan?
Quite a bit of all three of them, you forgot the one
You've talked of over, at, and below 10%. I've given you a lot of
info on it and links to more,
I think the over 10% issue was my major area of interest.
My recollection is that other areas of concern were more introduced by
you in response than of interest to me. I wasn't quite sure why
Murdoch,
I think that you might be little bit over sensitive in this case.
No one doubt that you know quite well the issues, but you
played devils advocate and that was very useful in the Australian
case. The responses you get is not as Murdoch, it is in your
position as advocate, but it is
Pardon me, Mark, while I cross-post this to the Biofuel list, it
deserves a wider airing, and Andrew did post his earlier messages
there.
Regards
Keith
Forgive me for the unsnipped thread attached to this letter- it seemed
important to place this in context.
Biofuels at Journey to Forever
Hi Keith,I think I did post this to biofuel...
what the hell tiime is it over there anyway? My header on this message says
2 am, and some earlier thing you posted said 3 pm (while I was awake late
last night I guess). the magic question- do you ever sleep?
Take care,
Mark
At 02:04 AM
Sorry , folks, i thought I was replying to keith offlist not to the whole list.
Mark
At 10:43 AM 12/24/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Hi Keith,I think I did post this to biofuel...
what the hell tiime is it over there anyway? My header on this message says
2 am, and some earlier thing you posted said 3
Sorry , folks, i thought I was replying to keith offlist not to the
whole list.
Mark
Never mind, it happens. People really embarrass themselves sometimes.
That awful moment when it's too late to stop it... Problem: no Undo
button of life.
At 10:43 AM 12/24/2002 -0800, you wrote:
Hi Keith,I
California ARB: Presentation for the December 9 10, 2002 workshops
on the Proposed Diesel Particulate Matter Control Measure for On-Road
Heavy-Duty Diesel-Fueled Residential and Commercial Solid Waste
Collection Vehicles.
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20021218b7.htm
The Japan Times Online
Diesel truck, bus owners to receive subsidies for installing pollution filters
The government plans to provide 8 billion yen in subsidies to owners
of large diesel trucks and buses who install filters to
Hi MM
We rubbed each other the wrong way a bit, sorry for my part, but I
don't think it did any harm and it was good to get the issues aired,
for which thanks.
Pardon the snips, but like you I'd rather leave it now. I might not
quite agree but I accept your explanations with good heart, and
They feed cows to fish -- or at least they did.
Mad fish.
:(
-Original Message-
From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 11:30 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: industrial livestock husbandry was: Re: [biofuels-biz] Re:
[biofuel] toxins in
Guys
This is getting us nowhere. We are all guilty of using more energy than is
necessary. Every time you turn on a radio, or the TV you are wasting
energy. Everytime a musical instrument is made or a picture is painted it is
a waste of resources. Decorating the inside of your house is a
Forgive me for the unsnipped thread attached to this letter- it seemed
important to place this in context.
Andrew,
What I don't understand is, why can't such your project be undertaken via
an existing forum like the biofuels-biz list itself? Why is a new list
necessary?
A little on lists and
I think I read this (the vegetarian salmon thing) in the paper recently
here, and heard it from locals (who are pretty addicted to salmon). there
might be different practices (hell, those factory farming people can make
an animal eat anything, it sounds like) in different places.
Mark
Newer varieties of unleaded gasoline do not seem to leave the same
residue. Since the late 1970's / early 1980's all new gasoline
powered cars leaving Detroit are required to burn unleaded gas. So
the new fuel tanks are not coated with the same gunk as they were
before. These are 'old'
On Mon, 23 Dec 2002 11:21:45 -0800 (PST), you wrote:
When I lived in Illinois in the late 70's, they had just started selling
Gassahol (10%eth, 90%gas), and I started using it. Within 2 months the
fuel filter clogged due to the tank clearing. Just replaced the fuel
filter and all was well.
You've talked of over, at, and below 10%. I've given you a lot of
info on it and links to more,
I think the over 10% issue was my major area of interest.
My recollection is that other areas of concern were more introduced by
you in response than of interest to me. I wasn't quite sure why
Keith wrote:
Randy sent me this, which I didn't know about:
also the neoprene floats inside of carburetors would soak up the
ethanol and become very 'heavy'. The hollow copper or brass floats
were uneffected. It took the industry about a year to fix the
chemical formula for the
Still don't understand exactly what you were getting at but I tell
you what I'll give you info on my setup on this end.
Post reception method: Email
Groups related to biofuel that I belong to currently: Biofuels (this one)
and also [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do not belong to evworld and
Cross-post of a letter from Mark to the Biofuels-biz list. Earlier
messages in the thread are here:
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=19349list=biofuelrelated=1
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=1956list=BIOFUELS-BIZ
Regards
Keith
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
From: girl
California ARB: Presentation for the December 9 10, 2002 workshops
on the Proposed Diesel Particulate Matter Control Measure for On-Road
Heavy-Duty Diesel-Fueled Residential and Commercial Solid Waste
Collection Vehicles.
BTW, I really enjoyed your analogy of the table having warps and curves!!
Curtis
Additional note:
I'm glad you liked the analogy and am composing some lengthier
thoughts in my head. I am waiting for some final or near-final
resolution on the Th!nk EV situation to take place, as it partly
Sorry this long post got delivered twice. Mark had cross-posted it
but Yahoo swallowed its foot by mistake or something and no posts
were delivered to the Biofuel list for more than half a day (and it's
still slow), so her cross-post got held up and I didn't see it.
Keith
Cross-post of a
http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20021218b7.htm
The Japan Times Online
Diesel truck, bus owners to receive subsidies for installing pollution filters
The government plans to provide 8 billion yen in subsidies to owners
of large diesel trucks and buses who install filters to
Hi MM
We rubbed each other the wrong way a bit, sorry for my part, but I
don't think it did any harm and it was good to get the issues aired,
for which thanks.
Pardon the snips, but like you I'd rather leave it now. I might not
quite agree but I accept your explanations with good heart, and
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