Re: [biofuels-biz] biodiesel testing

2003-02-10 Thread David Preskett
Paddy, We can do this here at Bangor. Call me on 01248 370588 and we'll discuss prices etc. Incidentally, all other biodiesel producers in the UK may also like to know that we provide a service to check the quality of your biodiesel. Once you've had confirmation that your product is reaching

[biofuels-biz] Q: price for glycerine in EU?

2003-02-10 Thread pauliusstanciauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, I need information about glycerine price for 1t in EU. I would be thankfull for your information. Paulius Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the

[biofuels-biz] Energy Forever

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/4651 THE 800-MILE LONG CHAPSTIK... ...And Other Tales of Domestic Energy Insecurity Amory B. Lovins is co-founder of the Rocky Mountain Institute, an entrepreneurial, nonprofit organization that fosters the efficient and restorative use of resources to

[biofuels-biz] Energy Forever

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/3/lovins-a.html Energy Forever By Amory B. Lovins and L. Hunter Lovins Issue Date: 2.11.02 The world is dangerous. America's energy policy makes it more so. In 1981 we wrote for the Pentagon what is still the definitive unclassified study of domestic energy

[biofuels-biz] Mobilizing Energy Solutions

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/2/lovins-a.html Mobilizing Energy Solutions By Amory B. Lovins and L. Hunter Lovins Issue Date: 1.28.02 For an annotated version of this article, go to www.rmi.org America is at war. The economy is down. Global prosperity, stability, and environment are at

RE: [biofuels-biz] Q: price for glycerine in EU?

2003-02-10 Thread Winny De Schryver
Hi, Depends on the purity of your product. Is it in the range of 65 , 80 , 90 or 95+ % pure ? Winny -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: pauliusstanciauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: maandag 10 februari 2003 15:08 Aan: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp:

RE: [biofuels-biz] b@stard crabs

2003-02-10 Thread Crabb, David
I apologize for my insolence and my nasty talk. Truly it did not promote the cause. I am not a 'greeny'. I am way on the other side, but I want to see renewable action. I see it as far superior to being tied to fixed energy suppliers like an addict. I annoyed me to no end to see Bush, whom I

RE: [biofuels-biz] Bush Moves to Slash Fund for Renewable .. was Bush =...

2003-02-10 Thread Crabb, David
This was an error on my part.I didn't explain my part and apologize. I was upset at the cutting of the program. I don't really think farmers should be given a subsidy for this any more than they should be paid to 'not grow' crops. to keep the price up The only subsidy I would accept would

RE: [biofuels-biz] greenwash

2003-02-10 Thread Crabb, David
I was attempting to point out that just saying the they 'converted their fleet' to run on biodiesel wasnt saying much to me. They can just switch back any old time they want, just by switching fuels. If they added hardwarecatalytic converter to make it so they couldn't switch back, then indeed

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Mobilizing Energy Solutions

2003-02-10 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:00:20 +0900, you wrote: http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/2/lovins-a.html Mobilizing Energy Solutions By Amory B. Lovins and L. Hunter Lovins Issue Date: 1.28.02 I haven't read much by him, as I don't do much reading, even of highly recommended experts, but having seen

Re: [biofuel] Re: From a local Group

2003-02-10 Thread Tricia Liu
Sorry for didn't follow up? Why you are fighting? For permit? Recently we were denied a permit for a solar carport, the chairwoman of the planning committee does not like solar panels. She thinks the blue polycrystalline panels are not just another new type of building materials!? You have to

RE: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread harley3
Mr.. Swearingen: You are so right. You are so much more informed than the President of the United States of America, and the rest of us. Mister Sadum is such a nice person. You keep thinking that. Harley -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

Re: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread Robin Parker
WOW! I'm in culture shock. Here it's $40 cord delivered for Oak, but it's likely to be a minimum of 10 cords. Several People are selling seasoned mixed Hardwoods for $35 for all you care to load into your pickup. Who in their right mind is wasting oak on firewood?? That stuff takes

Re: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Obviously we are talking about face cords and full cords...or as some like to call them, minor cords and major cords. ;-) Edward Beggs On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 08:45 PM, Steve Spence wrote: you can't put a cord of wood in a pickup truck. a cord of wood is 4 x 4 x 8 and weighs 2

Re: [biofuel] AC - DC

2003-02-10 Thread Robby Davenport
if memery serves me it is .636 of rms 120ac or peak which is 170vac. can't rember for sure . But its not possible for it to be greater than peak. let me know how well your conversion works out. Robby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking at WVO fueled diesel powered home/shop co-generation

[biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can't put a cord of wood in a pickup truck. a cord of wood is 4 x 4 x 8 and weighs 2 tons. Steve Spence WOW! I'm in culture shock. Here it's $40 cord delivered for Oak, but it's likely to be a minimum of

RE: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Hi Keith, I had a 3 hour roller coaster in reading your links and follow up links to them. It has been going from uncontrollable loud laughs, to a large sadness. Both initiated by the enormous stupidity by Blair, Bush and Powell, or rather incompetence since they maybe trusted the idiots who

Re: [biofuel] NY nrg policy ?

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
mikedee100 wrote: so there are a couple questions here, since you guys are so knowlegable, :), any way i was wondering if n e one knew new yorks states policy on energy buy back buy the utilities, or if they even have to, and how much do they have to, any links or information on this issue

Re: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
Obviously we are talking about face cords and full cords...or as some like to call them, minor cords and major cords. ;-) Heh... You think a major diminished might fit in a pickup truck? Keith Edward Beggs On Sunday, February 9, 2003, at 08:45 PM, Steve Spence wrote: you can't put a cord

Re: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
Opps, should of checked for incoming. g Hey, Hoagy, you've already picked up the war-talk! Thanks Keith! Looks like Harley I have allot more to read. It was just a grab-bag, more or less. I found all the scepticism about Powell's speech in the US interesting. Robert Fisk is always

RE: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Hakan Well, yes, and also, yes. But in the end you have to laugh, eh? It's the sanest response, helps keep you sane too, and balanced. And it doesn't mean you're belittling it - well, not the sheer tragedy of it anyway. But these days we do find extremely bizarre things we have to learn

[biofuel] RE: 120/240 heater elements

2003-02-10 Thread Tony Clark
Neil, The way this switch is wired to the heating elements, is that connected to 120V, in the 120v position, the 2 120v, 3000W elements are wired in parallel, giving 3000W + 3000W = 6000W. When connected to 240V, in the 240V position of the switch, the elements are connected in series, with

Re: [biofuel] California solar penalty

2003-02-10 Thread Darryl McMahon
I expect net metering has probably been implemented well somewhere. In Ontario, it is still not permitted. Provincial government has been muttering about changing legislation to permit it for a little less than a year now, but nothing concrete yet. Given the general behaviour of private

[biofuel] banning the oil field was: California solar penalty

2003-02-10 Thread Kim Garth Travis
murdoch wrote: They seem to want energy independence for the U.S., but only if it doesn't hurt their cronies. They have the priority of better energy policy, but it is subverted to at least one higher priority, aka Exxon-Mobil et. al. (under guise of giving due consideration to the

Re: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread Appal Energy
Harley, You might try climbing down from your high horse for a bit. The facts as both US British sources relay them are that the source of the portion in question is no longer in question. But of course facts change based upon the moment. One moment the years old facts were sufficient pointers

Re: [biofuel] methanol to Africa

2003-02-10 Thread QUIMICA NOVA
Tim, have you tried to contact the SASOL Company in South Africa? They are the big synthetic petroleum from coal company there. I guess that they might have methanol. And maybe some other alcohols. Another possibility would be for you to consider using ethanol (ethyl alcohol) instead of methanol,

Re: [biofuel] banning the oil field was: California solar penalty

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
murdoch wrote: They seem to want energy independence for the U.S., but only if it doesn't hurt their cronies. They have the priority of better energy policy, but it is subverted to at least one higher priority, aka Exxon-Mobil et. al. (under guise of giving due consideration to the

[biofuel] Energy Forever

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm/ID/4651 THE 800-MILE LONG CHAPSTIK... ...And Other Tales of Domestic Energy Insecurity Amory B. Lovins is co-founder of the Rocky Mountain Institute, an entrepreneurial, nonprofit organization that fosters the efficient and restorative use of resources to

[biofuel] Energy Forever

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/3/lovins-a.html Energy Forever By Amory B. Lovins and L. Hunter Lovins Issue Date: 2.11.02 The world is dangerous. America's energy policy makes it more so. In 1981 we wrote for the Pentagon what is still the definitive unclassified study of domestic energy

[biofuel] Mobilizing Energy Solutions

2003-02-10 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/2/lovins-a.html Mobilizing Energy Solutions By Amory B. Lovins and L. Hunter Lovins Issue Date: 1.28.02 For an annotated version of this article, go to www.rmi.org America is at war. The economy is down. Global prosperity, stability, and environment are at

Re: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Robin Parker wrote: Who in their right mind is wasting oak on firewood?? That stuff takes forever to grow! But oak trees do die. They make fantastic fire wood and that is all I burn. I would never cut down a live one, no need, there are plenty of dead ones to harvest. Bright

RE: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread Hakan Falk
Keith, The biggest problem is that it is no return for US, once started. They have to control the situation at any cost. With a R/P of 10.7 years for their own oil reserves and problems with Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Venezuela, it is no limit of how ugly it can turn out to be. I would not

RE: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread harley3
Todd: I will try to get off my high horse. Most politicians I simply don't trust. But of the last few US presidents. I believe that this president Bush has morals. Maybe even more than his father. If there was one recent president that had to make a decision for the right reason, I

Re: [biofuel] methanol to Africa

2003-02-10 Thread James Slayden
Methanex might have the quantities your looking for. On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Tim Cassidy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to get between 5,000 and 10,000 liters of methanol per month to Banjul, The Gambia, West Africa, for a Biodiesel project. I've tried to contact a number of methanol producers

Re: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread Greg and April
Think about it for a minute. The only forest around here is in the mountains, and I don't know of any hardwood that grows here naturally. The hard wood is ether trucked in or comes from the landscaping trimmings. If you opt for the softwood, 80+% of the forest with in a hour drive is National

Re: [biofuel] dirty / messy chain saw

2003-02-10 Thread Greg and April
I'll give it some thought. As for the water option, I figured it would take care of watering the grass at the same time. As long as the water stays on the grass, should not be much of a pollution problem. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Tony Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread Appal Energy
Believe in the president select if you wish. It's a free country. Or at least for a little while longer anyway. But no matter what his morals are, his ethics really stink. And relative to morals, no one has been able to figure out how a supposedly devout christian can fail to have a clue as to

[biofuel] banning the oil field

2003-02-10 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 10 Feb 2003 08:01:35 -0600, you wrote: murdoch wrote: They seem to want energy independence for the U.S., but only if it doesn't hurt their cronies. They have the priority of better energy policy, but it is subverted to at least one higher priority, aka Exxon-Mobil et. al.

[biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Robin Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WOW! I'm in culture shock. Here it's $40 cord delivered for Oak, but it's likely to be a minimum of 10 cords. Several People are selling seasoned mixed Hardwoods for $35 for all you care to load into your pickup.

Re: [biofuel] dirty / messy chain saw

2003-02-10 Thread Robby Davenport
fungi perfecti has a bar oil that is innoculated with mushroom spores and is bio-degradable Greg and April wrote: I'll give it some thought. As for the water option, I figured it would take care of watering the grass at the same time. As long as the water stays on the grass, should not be

Re: trees was: RE: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Well, doesn't something have to replenish the minerals that you took out of the soil in the form of wood? --- Martin Klingensmith infoarchive.net [archive.nnytech.net] nnytech.net Robin, Time is a relative thing. Compared to Radishes, Corn takes a long time to grow, but we don't stop using

RE: [biofuel]Democratic!???

2003-02-10 Thread Crabb, David
hitler: You seem to be older than me, as you spoke of personal knowledge, so I will bow to your wisdom concerning this matter. :) All else would be speculation and estimation on my part as I haven't lived through it or seen anything on this. I think it would make a nice topic for the History

Re: [biofuel] More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread MH
I will try to get off my high horse. Most politicians I simply don't trust. But of the last few US presidents. I believe that this president Bush has morals. Maybe even more than his father. If there was one recent president that had to make a decision for the right reason, I believe

RE: [biofuel] doing with the wastes

2003-02-10 Thread Crabb, David
I apolgize if I came across as an attack to call it junk. I called it that since my assumption was that if it was sewered.. it was junk. I just am wondering what most people would do. I like a decentralized fuel system, but not with many people just dumping waste. It would defeat the purpose.

[biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Neoteric Biofuels Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Obviously we are talking about face cords and full cords...or as some like to call them, minor cords and major cords. ;-) Edward Beggs I was talking about full cords, and the weight is actually closer to 3

[biofuel] Re: banning the oil field

2003-02-10 Thread murdoch
Thanks for a really interesting account. Since the person I was responding to was in the biofuel group, I'm going to cc your response to that group. Since you are into studying the different progressive housing methods out there, and are in Houston, maybe an application to NASA could be an

RE: [biofuel] Huge Fee Increases Proposed for Solar Energy in Cal ifornia

2003-02-10 Thread Crabb, David
What could be the possible rationale for this? I find that most of the bad gov't plans are made by what appear to be well meaning but short sighted people. Surely, installing solar cells would lower the peak energy usage and the costly powerplants needed to provide this power. What is the

RE: [biofuel] doing with the wastes

2003-02-10 Thread Crabb, David
This is somewhat correct. Your example of coolant is exactly right. Not that many people flush their own coolant or even do it as often as they are supposed to do so. Take these same rocket scientists, who don't know what they are doing.. or just dont care once its dumped down the gutter..

[biofuel] Re: More reason for Unrest?

2003-02-10 Thread dave01632002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do you wanna know how you can tell this isn't a real war? Dubya is cutting taxes and the only people making any sacrifices are the poor kids in the armed forces. For some reason our great, moral prseident has not asked everyone to do their part and purchase more fuel effecient vehicles and

Re: trees was: RE: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie

2003-02-10 Thread Greg and April
If the leaves and smaller branches are left, that is more than enough, because the large trees are getting most of the nutrients from the sub soil ( that is not used by most plants ) not the top soil. You could then go back and put the ashes back if you really wanted to, if this was done, the

Re: [biofuel] Methanol CA?

2003-02-10 Thread James Slayden
Yep, called them today. Looks like I will be getting my meth from them. James Slayden On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Ken Provost wrote: On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:27 AM, James Slayden wrote: ERC Racing in San Lorenzo. Anyone have a source in the south bay? I get mine at Kaeding

Re: [biofuel] Mobilizing Energy Solutions

2003-02-10 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 11 Feb 2003 00:00:20 +0900, you wrote: http://www.prospect.org/print/V13/2/lovins-a.html Mobilizing Energy Solutions By Amory B. Lovins and L. Hunter Lovins Issue Date: 1.28.02 I haven't read much by him, as I don't do much reading, even of highly recommended experts, but having seen

[biofuel] California solar penalty

2003-02-10 Thread murdoch
Darryl: Some really good in-depth thinking on net-metering; thx for the insights. Anyway, on to your post: I expect net metering has probably been implemented well somewhere. In Ontario, it is still not permitted. Provincial government has been muttering about changing legislation to