Re: [biofuel] contaminated Biodiesel

2003-06-13 Thread Pieter Koole
Hello friend, I think you should put the whole lot in a big container, and let it stand for about three weeks. After that, you will find, that the top layer is usable BD. The rest is probably a mixture of soap / water / glycerin or what so ever. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] cleaning out storage tank

2003-06-13 Thread Pieter Koole
With glycerin soap. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Aaron Ellringer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:29 PM Subject: [biofuel] cleaning out storage tank Howdy. I have a 500 gallon mobile

Re: [biofuel] This is so pathetic, then read this

2003-06-13 Thread Irwin Levinson
Mr. M. Are you so niave? that the phrase We(The USA) will use the worlds energy producing materials anywhere (place) they are, until they are all gone and THEN we will start to use The USA's fuel next. If you are not niave, then you know USCorps and Monops will control all sources of energy,

Re: Re: [biofuel] Natural gas - was Re: This is so pathetic: AGAIN

2003-06-13 Thread Irwin Levinson
Mr M Read my previous response to your message think like strategist; How do you make the most money, and keep your public with their tongues hanging out and assure their good will, why call CRISIS Right Mr. Bush? Irv Levinson ---Original Message--- From: murdoch [EMAIL

Re: The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum Warlords)

2003-06-13 Thread Dr Alan Greenberg
What modifications did you perform to increase your milage? - Original Message - From: Brent S [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:14 PM Subject: Re: The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum Warlords) Well, you have hit

Re: [biofuel] Canola Based Motor Oils

2003-06-13 Thread Dr Alan Greenberg
Sounds interesting , but what is the effect of the EM fields generated by the current passing through the wires while you are working on your crops. Perhaps it won't be a problem since you won't be living there yourself.. Alan - Original Message - From: benjinsl [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[biofuel] Beer fuel/Vacuum solar still was Re: Ethanol from bread waste?

2003-06-13 Thread benjinsl
Great ideas. I agree about the bread, would rather have it stay in the food cycle if possible, get as much out of it before turning into fuel. I also know that some of the local bakeries donate their older breads to charities/food banks. --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, tag1les [EMAIL

[biofuel] Molecular Sieves - Ethanol

2003-06-13 Thread benjinsl
I've been looking around for methods of ethanol concentration other than straight distillation in general and in the archives. Vacuum distillation seems like a good possibility. And adding a salt to the beer (the resulting fermented mix), which would raise the boiling point of water more

Re: [biofuel] Self-drive cars ahead

2003-06-13 Thread gobie
- Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] BBC NEWS | Technology | Self-drive cars ahead 7 June, 2003, 07:46 GMT 08:46 UK Self-drive cars ahead snip I don't mean that we shouldn't have and use cars, just that they should be driven by computers and not humans,

Re: [biofuel] Molecular Sieves - Ethanol

2003-06-13 Thread Keith Addison
benjinsl wrote: I've been looking around for methods of ethanol concentration other than straight distillation in general and in the archives. Why? What's your objection to straight distillation? Vacuum distillation seems like a good possibility. And adding a salt to the beer (the resulting

[biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-13 Thread Kris Book
A time of reckoning.. It's About time!! We MUST turn our government around and restore credibility to our Presidency, Congress and Senate. It won't be easy and those of us who demand change will have to work hard to make it come about. The most important thing any

[biofuel] G3 Twin tank

2003-06-13 Thread milliontc
Hello Ed I'm hoping to start government sponsored trials in the Gibraltar bus fleet. The double deckers are 11.5 L IDI Benz engines and the smaller buses are Toyota 1HZ - 4.2 L 6 cyl DI engine. I'm thinking of using the G3 for the Toyotas. Would you recommend the G3 for that engine? Am I

Re: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-13 Thread Hakan
Kris, What's wrong? Bush always talk about introducing American democracy in the world. He is honest about this. Democracy means People Power and therefore American democracy must mean American People Power. He is not talking about power for the local population, he is talking about

[biofuel] Purify glycerin

2003-06-13 Thread Pieter Koole
Can anyone explain me how I can get glycerin as pure as possible ? Would distillation at 290¡ work ? Somewhere I read that ethanol can be undone from water by using glycerin, but I can't find the article anymore. Can anyone help me with this ? Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole

[biofuel] Newbie

2003-06-13 Thread mrjepmanus
I have five vehicles that run on diesel. I have been hearing more and more about bio-diesel. Going to try to make some. Has anybody got any tips for a beginner? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's

Re[2]: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-13 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Hakan, Friday, 13 June, 2003, 06:59:59, you wrote: H Kris, H What's wrong? Bush always talk about introducing American H democracy in the world. He is honest about this. Democracy H means People Power and therefore American democracy must H mean American People Power. He is not talking

RE: [biofuel] Canola Based Motor Oils

2003-06-13 Thread kirk
I saw a field with an HT line crossing it and the corn under the wires was noticeably shorter. Subsequently I have read this is common under the lines that carry very high voltages. Evidently the plants experience a weak current all the time. Kirk -Original Message- From: Dr Alan

RE: Re[2]: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-13 Thread kirk
Quite true. At 18 I hitch hiked around Europe and learned about geography and other cultures firsthand. I found Europeans on the average to be better educated than Americans. Other than that I found our similarities are far greater than our differences. Kirk -Original Message- From:

Re: [biofuel] Newbie

2003-06-13 Thread pam
If you are anywhere near Fredericksburg VA - we can hook you up with all the kitchen oil you can usePam - Do you Yahoo!? Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [biofuel] This is so pathetic, then read this

2003-06-13 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:29:08 -0500 (CDT), you wrote: Mr. M. Are you so niave? that the phrase We(The USA) will use the worlds energy producing materials anywhere (place) they are, until they are all gone and THEN we will start to use The USA's fuel next. If you are not niave, then you know

[biofuel] Re: Molecular Sieves - Ethanol

2003-06-13 Thread Keith Addison
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why? What's your objection to straight distillation? Nothing really, mostly curiosity for other methods. components don't boil separately at their respective boiling points - Since salt is much more soluble in water

Re[2]: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-13 Thread Hakan
Dear Gustl, My answer inserted below, At 08:48 AM 6/13/2003 -0400, you wrote: Hallo Hakan, Friday, 13 June, 2003, 06:59:59, you wrote: H Kris, H What's wrong? Bush always talk about introducing American H democracy in the world. He is honest about this. Democracy H means People Power and

[biofuel] Re: Toyota to make vehicles more recyclable

2003-06-13 Thread murdoch
This is a good idea by Toyota, and I forwarded it to the evworld.com group where they were asking about recyclability, a key question as to ev batteries, as well as with respect to all vehicles and all parts. It seems clear that some Euro makers are leaders in these areas. I especially liked

[biofuel] Re: Risk Values, Deaths per 100 million miles

2003-06-13 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 18:38:23 EDT, you wrote: Is the glass half empty or half full? Statistics can be presented to support either side of a story. Several alert readers pointed out the International Road Traffic and Accident Database (IRTAD) web site at

Re: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-13 Thread Kris Book
My dear Hakan, I have wrestled with this problem for many years and my final conclusion is that, if I speak out against our current regime I may be branded a terrorist but, if I don't speak up then this country is going to hell in a hand basket and my children will never be able to experience

[biofuel] The Dog Ate My WMD

2003-06-13 Thread Appal Energy
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8089 The Dog Ate My WMD William Rivers Pitt is a New York Times best-selling author of two books, War On Iraq (Context Books) and The Greatest Sedition is Silence (Pluto Press). Editor's Note: This article was first published by

Re: [biofuel] A Time of Reckoning

2003-06-13 Thread Hakan
Kris, US is blessed to have people like you and the right to speak up, the latter is under attack at the moment, but will fail. America and other countries are great, not because of the government at the time, but because of its people. It is also a great number of other countries that are

[biofuel] Natural gas - was Re: This is so pathetic

2003-06-13 Thread murdoch
IN a way I guess you could say the definition or scope of farming stands to change. If it was a farmer's job to change the power of sunlight, via water and air and soil, to foodstuffs, then a couple of things have changed. First, we now use some foodstuffs for energy and materials and other

Re: [biofuel] Purify glycerin

2003-06-13 Thread Keith Addison
Can anyone explain me how I can get glycerin as pure as possible ? Would distillation at 290¡ work ? Glycerine purification http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#glycpure For about 95% purity: Separating glycerine http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_glycerin.html#separate

[biofuel] Re: Purify glycerin

2003-06-13 Thread girl_mark_fire
Hey, where did this 95% figure come from, anyway? When I do this, the glycerol layer is still pretty ugly looking- sort of a light tan color. I heard different figures than this 95% one that we throw around- 40% glycerine for the really crude soap byproduct, and 80% after acidification. Mark

Re: [biofuel] Purify glycerin

2003-06-13 Thread Pieter Koole
Thanks a lot. Met vriendelijke groeten, Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:01 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Purify glycerin Can anyone explain me how I can get glycerin as

Re: [biofuel] Re: Purify glycerin

2003-06-13 Thread Appal Energy
Once the FFAs are separated (soaps cracked) and the alcohol recovered, the only other adulterating factors are the colorants, oderants and water (primarily from the consumed acid). Not much of any of these, with the former two being essentially zero. The latter primarily comes from the acid used

Re: The Cult of High Mileage (was RE: [biofuel] Funding Petroleum Warlords)

2003-06-13 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:40:43 -0500, you wrote: Convincing people to drive less would be considerably easier if the price of petroleum fuels was even close to the actual cost (i.e. no government subsidization). I agree. Since motorsports seem to be the main force behind automotive technology,