Re: [biofuels-biz] Props Conversions

2003-06-27 Thread mustangsqd
WVO/SVO weighs approximately 7.75 pounds per gallon Diesel fuel weighs between 6.5 - 7 pounds per gallon Keep us updated on your project !!! Ed H [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free

Re: [biofuels-biz] Props Conversions

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Allen
Hi Joey, Keith's inspiring work on JourneytoForever\Vegetable Oil Yields lists the quality standard (RKQualitatsstandard) for rapeseed oil as being between 900 and 930 kg/m^3 and later, on the same e-page, he quotes Waste Vegetable Oil as a Diesel Replacement Fuel by Philip Calais as saying

Re: [biofuels-biz] diester oil

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Allen
Dear Levent, A mono ester (such as most fatty-acid methyl esters used for biodiesel) have just one ester group (-COO-) somewhere close to the end of a largish molecule some 16 or 18 carbon atoms long. This 'chain' can be terminated by any aliphatic group such as methyl-, ethyl-, butyl-etc. A

[biofuel] Glycerine

2003-06-27 Thread Greg and April
Does anyone know what would happen to Glycerine, if added to a methane digester? Would it gum up the works, or would it digest ? Greg H. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions.

RE: [biofuel] Problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-27 Thread filip.ponsaerts
Pieter, Me too, I've been experimenting with seperating FFA and glyc. Based on my experience, I contribute your problems to the use of sulphuric acid in stead of phosphoric acid. The reaction of sulphuric is that much stronger that it not only will enable separation, but also makes sulpuric

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy

2003-06-27 Thread Hakan
Bob, Just wanted to add to your info about heat pump. Both heat pump and cooling pump (fridge or AC) are energy movers. They take energy from one side and move it to the other side. If you have movers with the absorption method, it takes about the same energy as the energy you move. With

Re: [biofuel] Hydrogen hype?

2003-06-27 Thread Hakan
Greg, What do you think? I would probably suspect that a more efficient way to use those feed stocks would be Ethanol production. Why would you use glucose rich feed stock for Hydrogen. Why would you absolutely need hydrogen for fuel cells, I do not really understand the goals for this.

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy

2003-06-27 Thread Hakan
Actually, the geothermal energy does not come from the sun, it is more from being a sun. The Magna (I think I got it right), is a part of the Earth that have not yet cooled off and when it does, it is at such a long term that the self destructive humanity, with all probabilities, must have

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy

2003-06-27 Thread Robert Mills
This is good data but you forgot to add the energy from the electric motor's heat that will also be a plus to the calculation if you are looking at the hot side of the system. Bob Hakan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bob, Just wanted to add to your info about heat pump. Both heat pump and

Re: [biofuel] Re:To Chris problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Todd, Pieter and all Pieter, The answer is simple. You most probably can't using readily available resources. While you may be able to find some way to bleach and deodorize the glycerin after FFA separation and alcohol removal, you won't be able to improve its purity level unless you

Re: [biofuel] Re:To Chris problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-27 Thread Appal Energy
Okay laddie, As to useful ends of glycerin, I'm at a standstill. Not everyone has an industrial glycerin refiner down the road and few are producing biodiesel from virgin oils, making their glycerin somewhat acceptably usable in some manufacturing uses. So I think it's probably time everyone

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy

2003-06-27 Thread murdoch
I have seen it said that a source of geothermal energy is from original planet-forming energy which hasn't yet cooled, and in gravitational decay which hasn't yet taken place. I'm not sure how much I buy this, but ok. I think other, additional, possible sources for this are in the nuclear decay

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy

2003-06-27 Thread Hakan
MM, I think that it is pretty accepted, some proof would for sure be volcanos and hot springs. I agree with you and many others, that manipulations with the worlds crust, could result in unwanted geological stress and unexpected natural disasters. I do however think that the risks, compared

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy

2003-06-27 Thread murdoch
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:14:16 +0200, you wrote: MM, I think that it is pretty accepted, some proof would for sure be volcanos and hot springs. I agree with you and many others, that manipulations with the worlds crust, could result in unwanted geological stress and unexpected natural disasters.

Re: [biofuel] FW: [SOLAR] NOW heliostat WAS new dish space frame crosspost

2003-06-27 Thread Grant Simpson
HI John Do you have any further info on this technology such as links to websites or any compnay that isd already in production ? WE sell PV cells other renewable energy technolgies currently in New Zealand , so we have an interest to try promote the latest greatest technologies . Hear

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy and my bid for the presidency.

2003-06-27 Thread Hakan
MM, At 12:25 PM 6/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:14:16 +0200, you wrote: MM, I think that it is pretty accepted, some proof would for sure be volcanos and hot springs. I agree with you and many others, that manipulations with the worlds crust, could result in unwanted

RE: [biofuel] Re:To Chris problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-27 Thread Christopher Tan
As Todd said, you better start over again and do it carefully this time. Your measurements of reagents ingredients specifically Sodium Hydroxide) should be almost exact. If you are using the two-stage method, lye should be 3.5 grams. You could probably add more Phosphoric Acid but that would

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy and my bid for the presidency.

2003-06-27 Thread murdoch
Despite the scientists' claims that I've seen that biomass production uses too much energy to be an effective contributor to an energy mix, and that if this energy use is in fossil fuels that the renewable gain is negligible or non-existent, I tend to not believe these claims. The fact is that

[biofuel] Walking North On A Southbound Train, Pt. 1

2003-06-27 Thread Keith Addison
Rachel's Environment Health News #766 April 3, 2003 (Published June 25, 2003) Environmental Research Foundation http://www.rachel.org Walking North On A Southbound Train, Pt. 1 by David W. Orr** An old farmer once told me a story of a wily fox that he came to know well, and its interactions

Re: [biofuel] Re:To Chris problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-27 Thread Keith Addison
'Lo Todd Okay laddie, As to useful ends of glycerin, I'm at a standstill. Not everyone has an industrial glycerin refiner down the road and few are producing biodiesel from virgin oils, making their glycerin somewhat acceptably usable in some manufacturing uses. ... didn't Mark say she

Re: [biofuel] Re:To Chris problems sep. glycerine

2003-06-27 Thread Appal Energy
Hello Keith, We've done a lot of the same work here. Haven't gotten down to the nitty gritty of fabricating a Babbington or Turk burner, but we have shipped out the soap/glycerin/alcohol/caustic to a company that distributes the Clean Burn brand of waste oil boilers and heaters for a test burn.