=Choren has facilities for converting the
=biomass from wood residue into fuel.
Sounds like Bio-d to me.
Christopher
Something a bit diff from veg-oil biodiesel. Perhaps more along the lines of
thermal depolymerization?
http://www.happyvalleyasylum.com/ratched/archives/000778.php
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=585ncid=585e=1u=/nm/20030803/sc_nm/environment_fires_canada_dc
With folks doing some serious hand-wringing over such wildfires as
those in Canada, the US West and Europe, I thought it would be an okay
time to go over the fact that these massive
I don't think it's as simple as you have put it. So we cut down everything
that is flammable? What are we left with. Don't forget it's us that is
messing with nature, not the other way around. So two or three people got
killed, some houses were destroyed - no disrespect, but big deal.
What about
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor7.html
Test-batch mini-processor
For one or two litres
This mini-processor is easy to make from not very much, mostly kichen
stuff and a couple of tools. It's effective and safe, closed and
virtually air-tight, with no splashing or leaking of hot
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 10:44:38 -0700, you wrote:
In Oregon the forestry service has been trying to say (A) if the
undergrowth and dead stuff is kept cleared away, there is less stuff on
the ground to burn (B) if trees are trimmed up then anything that would
be considered as a ladder for fire to the
Friends,
I've been reading on this and the product is not BD (biodiesel).
The process is biomass to syn gas by high temperature gasification, and then
to synthetic diesel, quite similar to petroleum diesel.
Is similar to the coal to oil process of giant Sasol, the South African
producer of
Some of your surmises are correct. But I certainly wouldn't go so far as to
say all. It's not entirely a Conservationist vs Logger argument. Rather,
it's more a Anything For Profit vs. Environmentallly Sane Endeavors dilemma.
As for those who care to build their homes in a forest? There's an age
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An article about the
Hi Marcelino and all
Certainly it's not biodiesel, it's a Fischer-Tropsch fuel, as you say.
The reason for my Huh??? Um... is that I somehow thought maybe
biodiesel is the World's First CO2-neutral Designer Diesel Fuel.
By the way, a Biofuel list member sent me this some time back:
One of
It seeems as though now would be the time to start collecting seeds that
are open pollinators Oregon has at least two places that do not deal with
hybrid seeds. they only sell open pollinators.
On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 09:07:27 -0700 murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
you wrote:
But if climate can change this abruptly, naturally, then that would be
an argument against taking recent seemingly abrupt warming as
necessarily an un-natural man-induced change.
Cooling was not the only change that experts were starting to worry about.
Since the late 1950s,
What would primative man thought when glacial ice started to receed from the
northern states? If they would have had the intelegence to comprehend what
was happening, they would have said that the planet was warming up. The
planet has been warming for a long time. We only have seen the
Thanks all for the advice for the rookies first batch. It went well, got good
separation and the glycerine is staying liquid as predicted with fresh oil. The
oil is cloudy after 24 hours, normal? or will it come out in the wash? (is it
soap?) One more quick question for washing: the site
Personally I have no doubts of that we are in a very dangerous
period of man made global warming. I had a very interesting off line
discussion about this with Michael Allen, who has followed this and
know a lot more than me. We both have the opinion that the CO2
theories might be a too
Hi Christopher
Hi Keith,
You cannot substitute 60 degrees C in a couple of weeks with 121 degrees in
30 minutes. You need such a high temperature to stop the fungus from
reproducing and denature(destroy) the enzymes responsible for converting
straw to glucose. By composting, you are creating
Dear Keith
Thanks for the data.
I have found that by using virgin oil and 3.5g
NaOH with 200cc methanol yields a pH of 11.20. I
have repeated the experiments with good results.
Sticking with a pH of 11.20, I've processed used
oil with good results.
If you say so. I'll stick with pH 8.8-9.2,
Hi MM
I see. So the school of thought here is, to some, that if there's
evidence that change comes more swiftly than had been thought, then if
humans induce change then the human-induced change could come more
switfly and and strongly than had been thought.
Also it's a complex system, all very
The solar system as well as the earth is electrical.
Our current experts have almost no inclusion of electrical effects in their
model.
They are obsessing about second order effects while blind to the dynamics in
front of them.
As the oceans experience warming CO2 levels will take off like a
Hello Kaj
Thanks all for the advice for the rookies first batch. It went well,
got good separation and the glycerine is staying liquid as predicted
with fresh oil. The oil is cloudy after 24 hours, normal? or will it
come out in the wash? (is it soap?) One more quick question for
washing:
Hi Kirk
The solar system as well as the earth is electrical.
Our current experts have almost no inclusion of electrical effects in their
model.
They are obsessing about second order effects while blind to the dynamics in
front of them.
As the oceans experience warming CO2 levels will take off
framework that's right. All this is difficult for scientists, who've
been taking criticism for 75 years or longer that they're
overspecialised, learning more and more about less and less. They're
not very good at synthesis. They're also not very good at messy stuff
like life on earth, which
on 8/3/03 7:43 AM, murdoch at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think if you look at the history of science, you'll see examples
of times where we believed a theory or debated it very intensely,
and then years later the clouds cleared and an apparently newer much
better way of looking at things
Hi MM
framework that's right. All this is difficult for scientists, who've
been taking criticism for 75 years or longer that they're
overspecialised, learning more and more about less and less. They're
not very good at synthesis. They're also not very good at messy stuff
like life on earth,
On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 13:35:52 +0200, you wrote:
Personally I have no doubts of that we are in a very dangerous
period of man made global warming.
I don't know, with the level of certainty you have. But I think even
if one is a partial agnostic on this issue, from where I'm sitting, I
see this
ãSea level is the highest itâs ever been and climate is about as warm as
itâs ever been,ä
Bindschadler said. ãWeâre really moving into uncharted territory.ä
Warmest the planet has been? I live where an ocean used to be and near huge
deposits of dinosaur fossils. It was alot warmer at
The financial markets and situations are, at present, very intersting
to me. Not only is the budget deficit at a record (I think) in simple
dollar terms, but we're seeing States in trouble. Here in California,
just as an example, (and the most populous state's budget problems are
the
Do we want to talk about polar wobble and polar shift? What if global
warming is a precursor to an event of that level. Anyone who has ever
sloshed a bowlful of a liquid or a fish tank can not even begin to
imagine the magnitude of changes from water displacement/ re-placement
that would happen
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=585ncid=585e=1u=/nm/20030803/sc_nm/environment_fires_canada_dc
With folks doing some serious hand-wringing over such wildfires as
those in Canada, the US West and Europe, I thought it would be an okay
time to go over the fact that these massive
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor7.html
Test-batch mini-processor
For one or two litres
This mini-processor is easy to make from not very much, mostly kichen
stuff and a couple of tools. It's effective and safe, closed and
virtually air-tight, with no splashing or leaking of hot
Your premise is based upon no net polar shifts throughout history. It starts
to fall apart in the face of them.
Todd Swearingen
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From: Brent S [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Alaska is
I have heard about the polar shift, but have no real data from prehistory to
go by, only speculation. I have heard a report that stated that the magnetic
pole is moving towards Russia, which would put Canada into a warmer climate.
One question, is Russia experiencing a cooling off and freezing
Hi Paul
Covered most of this already - see:
http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=26692list=BIOFUEL
Best
Keith
I have found that by using virgin oil and 3.5g
NaOH with 200cc methanol yields a pH of 11.20. I
have repeated the experiments with good results.
Sticking with a pH of 11.20,
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