California Biodiesel ConsumersÂ’ Conference
Towards sustainable biodiesel for passenger car and
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January 31 and Feb 1 , 10am-5 pm
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Should shake things up quite a bit!
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Greg,
Since you choose not to notice, someone needs to inform you that there's a
wee might of a difference between fossil fuel depletion and the inherant
migration out of cities over time and the consequences of plague.
Maybe not enough of a difference for you to notice, especially since you
If I may disagree with the entire group, I disagree with the supposition
that Corporations are the problem. To me, PEOPLE are the problem.
Corporations are merely vehicles for people to screw up the enviroment
. step all over human rights blah blah blah. Think of it like the
argument
I'm looking for employment in the Biofuel industry. I am intersted in
traveling for research, Doing video production on projects, working
trade shows and sales. I am based in northern California. In the
Oakland/Concord area.
Thanks
Chester
Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
I agree with you. I'm not sure the problem can be solved at a legal level,
though. The question is, cna you get people to conserve at a household level?
From what I can see, the answer right now is NO. You can't even get people to
drive practical cars (just gotta have the 8000 lb SUV that
You could also include in that the fact that what allows some of the worst
offenders to get away with thing (at least as far as the corporations go) is
not lax laws, dirty politicians or any of the other crap that some would have
you believe. It is public apathy.
When I was in high school,
Cant remember if I got this link from you guys or somewhere else, but it worth
a look anyway, its from a uk paper. If its duplication Keith feel free to
delete.
Good luck with defeat bush campaign, the rest of the world is waiting on you..
http://www.commondreams.org/views03/1202-09.htm
Hogwash, not even Bush can stop progress.
just like Klinton couldn't either.
Given another four years Bush Co. will push the US so far behind the curve
of energy efficient and renewable energy markets that it will take half a
full human lifetime just to climb to a level of par with countries
On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 14:17:17 -0600, you wrote:
First off, I generally consider myself an environmentalist. I am also a
realist (which a lot of environmentalists don't tend to be). We need oil.
There is oil in alaska. We should drill the oil. You are talking about an
incrdibly small
Well Greg. Let's have a look at all this.
I generally consider myself an environmentalist. Of a type maybe -
the anti-environment Wise Use type perhaps? I suggest it because
your posts bear a lot of those hallmarks. You sneer at the
environment groups, you use a broad brush, you know better:
Sorry Curtis, you've got it all upside-down.
If I may disagree with the entire group, I disagree with the supposition
that Corporations are the problem. To me, PEOPLE are the problem.
Corporations are merely vehicles for people to screw up the enviroment
. step all over human rights
I didn't say stop it.
I stated that Bush Co. noosing a lead anchor around this country's neck
will slow it's attainment of energy efficiency and renewables to the point
that it will take half a human lifetime to recover from their debilitating
agenda to a level of par with other countries.
http://www.time.com/time/columnist/waller/article/0,9565,170983,00.html
First, to calm moderates in his party, Republican Congressman John Sununu of
New Hampshire tacked an amendment to the energy bill limiting the drilling
to just 2,000 of the 1.5 million acres along the coast plain. Then, the
You are doing the same thing, answering things I did not say. I said the US
needs oil. I did not say we needed to reduce our foreign dependency on oil, I
did not say anything about foreign terrorists. I made a simple, factual
statement. I will make it again, I will put it in all caps, so
Hallo,
I suppose I sound like an old record but...when it comes to politics
good and honest men either do not enter politics or if they do then
generally one of three things happen: (1) they find out that they have
to compromise their integrity and they leave politics, (2) they do not
Uh.., there's a bit more than just a small problem with the
following thought process and visual.
There is major benifit to drilling for oilin alaska, and very few
drawbacks. I think part of the problem is that people have trouble
conceptualizing 300,000 acres out of 16.8 million.
How do you come up with an 864% under representation? Calculate the mass of a
5 lb bag of sugar, calculate the mass of a teaspoon of said sugar (I used a
heapng tespoon if it really matters) and you end up with a ratio (within +/-5%)
that is the same as the 300,000/16.8 million.
We could
on further investigation, you are correct. The measure I used was NOT a
teaspoon. I apologise. the point is, you are talkinh 1.7 percent of the total
area in question. In the sugar analogy, that would .085 lbs or 38.554 grams.
Again, sorry, I pulled that from a chart we use to calcule
More facts eh Greg? People are just too apathetic to care. Another
fact with a certain provenance.
Do you believe people are just naturally apathetic? That they just
are that way? If you do believe that, then do you think they've
always been that way?
If you look back a bit, say a hundred
Mr Jahnke
You are doing the same thing, answering things I did not say.
No, that's exactly what YOU are doing, and I'll prove it - though I
know it'll go straight over your head.
I said the US needs oil. I did not say we needed to reduce our
foreign dependency on oil, I did not say anything
Small problem, I do not want to destroy this illusion of that US have grand
choices, but the real ones are,
US needs oil and it is urgent, sorry but US only have oil for 10 years and
the absolutely best that Alaska etc. can give is 5 additional years and NG
is in similar or worse situation
Your acreage ratio was 1:56 (300,000:16,800,000)
You compared that ratio to 1 teaspoon per 5# bag of sugar.
11.25 cups / 5# bag of sugar
16 tbsp / cup
3 tsp / tbsp
That's ratio of 540 teaspoons / 5# bag - a ratio of 1:540 and a far cry
from 1:56.
One 100% allowance for your first teaspoon.
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