RE: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-08 Thread Marylynn Schmidt
I work with animals using a variety of alternative approaches so I've gotten to know lots of them. I don't call myself an animal lover. I do find I have great respect for them as individuals. I sometimes find the human decision to judge animals as lesser .. because, based upon the tests

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Ken Provost
on 3/7/05 1:41 PM, Chris Bennett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way of counteracting the drawbacks associated with these (high IV) types of oils? I ask because I am currently producing biodiesel from a supply which consists of about 50% semi hydrogenated pourable vegetable oil

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Keith ! Of course there is a possibility that unsaturated compounds interact in the lubricating oil, but if the engine«s combustion is proper, you do not have to expect big problems. But, there are other ways for the fuel to get in contact with the engine oil: It the engine is equipped

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
on 3/7/05 1:41 PM, Chris Bennett at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way of counteracting the drawbacks associated with these (high IV) types of oils? I ask because I am currently producing biodiesel from a supply which consists of about 50% semi hydrogenated pourable vegetable oil

Re: [Biofuel] Best WVO for GM Dura-max

2005-03-08 Thread Busyditch
Thanks for the heads up, Stuart. Mine has floor shift 4x4, maybe this is OK? Will def look into the pump mounted driver issue. j hajeski - Original Message - From: Stuart Kreitman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 1:50 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Best WVO

Re: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-08 Thread Appal Energy
I don't call myself an animal lover. I do find I have great respect for them as individuals. Come on girl. Admit it. Yes you are :-) and your existance would be much poorer without them, as would everyone's. Most just don't realize it. Might you not need to let the professional facade

Re: [Biofuel] factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Mike - interesting comments. Earlier in my career, I worked as a Field Energy Engineer and was assigned beef, poultry, dairy market sector including Abattoirs, Slaughterhouses, Meat Packers, Poultry Farms, et al. I also handled the sewage and water treatment market sector for about six years. It

Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver

2005-03-08 Thread John Wilson
Audi, Honda, Volvo, VW and others have been using interference designs for over 25 years. In fact, most high compression engines are interference designs. (Reply) Well why not! It is a great way to sell parts, make profit and burn fossil fuel.. It would change if there was proper consumer

[Biofuel] Oil Briefly Rises Above $55 and Seems Likely to Stay High

2005-03-08 Thread Appal Energy
How high is the oil Momma? 55 Dollars and Risin'. How high is the oil Poppa? 80 Dollars and Risin'. Oil Briefly Rises Above $55 and Seems Likely to Stay High By JAD MOUAWAD Published: March 4, 2005 Oil prices briefly rose

[Biofuel] Snipping was: Re: Biofuel Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20

2005-03-08 Thread Trey McCay
Greetings all, I am a new member and am well excited about learning all I can about biodiesel. I hope to make it for my personal use and use my experiences to help others who enter into the foray of B100. I will admit some great concern about the various plant oils--eg: soy and their double

[Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread Doug Younker
Hi, Here is how my simple mind sees the situation. Unless a drastic event take place to grossly reduce the human population, humans concentrated in cities will remain a fact. As long as humans desire to consume animals for food the concentration of animals will remain a fact as well. Even

Re: [Biofuel] Bad news for Diesel driver

2005-03-08 Thread Doug Younker
Why all the acting like engine damage due to a timing chain or belt failure is something new, when this possibility has been around for quite some time? Longer than the 25 years indicated The risk is born from pushing the envelope, so to speak, to get the best possible performance from an

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi, Here is how my simple mind sees the situation. Unless a drastic event take place to grossly reduce the human population, humans concentrated in cities will remain a fact. As long as humans desire to consume animals for food the concentration of animals will remain a fact as well.

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Chris Bennett
On the other hand, it doesn't take very long for it to oxidise after brewing, especially if it's been bubble-washed. In one test some bubble-washed homebrew had oxidised well beyond the EU limit after only a week, and well beyond the abilities of anti-oxidants to stop it hardening. Use

Re: [Biofuel] Snipping was: Re: Biofuel Digest, Vol 7, Issue 20

2005-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
Greetings all, I am a new member and am well excited about learning all I can about biodiesel. I hope to make it for my personal use and use my experiences to help others who enter into the foray of B100. I will admit some great concern about the various plant oils--eg: soy and their double

[Biofuel] Diesel engines

2005-03-08 Thread Anthony Austin
If you really want a diesel vehicle and are not satisfied with what's available, find a small pickup with a blown engine and replace it with a diesel out of a junkyard. In the eighties, Toyota, Nissan, Isuzu, and Mazda all made diesels for small trucks, and some of them can still be found.

RE: [Biofuel] Cleaning Up Factory Farms

2005-03-08 Thread Kim Garth Travis
Thanks for the support Keith. I am thinking about the 100% grass fed people, who raise animals strictly by pasture and hay. Many of them also raise pork this way. It takes about 6 months longer to get the animals to slaughter weight this way, but it is not bad for the environment and is

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread Bo Lozoff
idiot; I don't appreciate it. Kim, where on earth did I ever say anyone who raises animals for meat is like a slaveholder??? I said I raise animals too, and eat their meat when I need to. And I ALSO said factory farming is evil, and you and your husband do NOT FACTORY FARM! Just leave it

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread desertstallion
Hi, Relax...nothing was personal...you brought up some valid stuff, and basically everyone is agreeing with you...but, also trying to point out some additional nuances to all this. One of my beefs, has been all the waste associated with herd culls in the UK and elsewhere to halt the spread of

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Greg Harbican
Know of any good anti-oxidants that are readily available? The reason I ask, is that it might not be a bad idea to use some with mystery oil. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 17:59 Subject: Re:

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread Appal Energy
What I find rather interesting in the same realm of discussion is when it revolves around Meat vs Veggie vs Animal Rights vs Factory Farming vs Cities. Goats and sheep can keep keep fallow land manicured extremely well, free of thistle and other undesireables, all the while beating

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread Appal Energy
the sight of all those animals just bulldozed into trenches is to me the epitomy of horrible waste. How much better if they could have been rendered to biodiesel. How much better if they were never amassed in such concentrations in the first place and the destruction was eliminated due to

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread bob allen
high Iodine biodiesel with antioxidants. Maybe BHT or BHA. Greg Harbican wrote: Know of any good anti-oxidants that are readily available? The reason I ask, is that it might not be a bad idea to use some with mystery oil. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread John Hayes
Know of any good anti-oxidants that are readily available? The reason I ask, is that it might not be a bad idea to use some with mystery oil. BHA (Butylated hydroxyanisole), BHT (Butylated hydroxytoluene), and TBHQ (Tertiary Butyl Hydroquinone) are all food grade antioxidants that are

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice forBD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Greg Harbican
I probably asked for that, for not being a little more explicit. We all know they are common additives in food, but, to my knowledge I can not just go down to the local food mart and but, a couple of pounds / gallons or what ever they are sold as - unless they are sold under another name and (

[Biofuel] Mileage on diesel trucks...

2005-03-08 Thread detached
Just wondering if anyone has any specs on mpg for diesel pickups when using biodiesel? Specifically the Cummins 5.7l Turbo diesels in the Dodge pickups. Does the mileage drastically increase over diesel? I found mpg for regular diesel, but not too much on biodiesel. Thanks!

Re: [Biofuel] Factory farms vs. large cities

2005-03-08 Thread desertstallion
True, but often the cow is already out of the barn, so to say. One day we may be wise enough to prevent...but, right now, I would at least like to see something useful done with all the carcasses. Derek -- Original message -- From: Appal Energy [EMAIL

[Biofuel] Re: factory farms vs. big cities

2005-03-08 Thread mkmiller
Phillip. I would like to know about this. I have no experience with municiple waste handling, but I have lived in the farm belt all of my life and know how hard small family farmers work to manage their waste streams. The problem I see with urban sprawl is the attempt to utilize the same

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
Know of any good anti-oxidants that are readily available? The reason I ask, is that it might not be a bad idea to use some with mystery oil. Greg H. I suggested this to Chris: Try Biofuel Systems http://www.biofuelsystems.com/products.htm Biodiesel equipment, supplies additives Write

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice for BD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
On the other hand, it doesn't take very long for it to oxidise after brewing, especially if it's been bubble-washed. In one test some bubble-washed homebrew had oxidised well beyond the EU limit after only a week, and well beyond the abilities of anti-oxidants to stop it hardening. Use it

Re: [Biofuel] (Biofuel)[Fwd: Re: soybeanoil a bad choice forBD making?]

2005-03-08 Thread Keith Addison
I probably asked for that, for not being a little more explicit. We all know they are common additives in food, but, to my knowledge I can not just go down to the local food mart and but, a couple of pounds / gallons or what ever they are sold as - unless they are sold under another name and

Re: [Biofuel] Re: factory farms vs. big cities

2005-03-08 Thread Phillip Wolfe
Mike - I am at work and will send email later tonight Pacific Standard Time. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phillip. I would like to know about this. I have no experience with municiple waste handling, but I have lived in the farm belt all of my life and know how hard small family

RE: [Biofuel] Latest Consumer Reports

2005-03-08 Thread Tim Ferguson
Hello Keith, I hope this finds you and Midori doing well. snip Rely on the government to fix our problems??? No Thank You! The government is again a symptom of the American Mind-set. The U.S. government is so often accused of catering to big business. And rightly so...but that is still just a

[Biofuel] CODEX ALIMENTARIS ENDS U.S. SUPPLEMENTS IN JUNE 2005

2005-03-08 Thread malcolm maclure
Off topic in a way - but another instance of Big Business set hell bent at fleecing us all even more. Greed really does know no limits does it? *shakes head in despair* Regards to all Malcolm CODEX ALIMENTARIS ENDS U.S. SUPPLEMENTS IN JUNE 2005 By Dr. James