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2006-05-02 Thread MK DuPree
Hi...I'd like to hear the list's opinion about the process developed byIogen toproduce "cellulosic ethanol."Goldman Sachs announced yesterday (May 1) an investment of $30million Canadian in the company. Royal Dutch/Shell, Petro-Canada, and the Canadian Gov't have also all partnered with or

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: You won't believe Stephen Colbert at the White House Correspondents Dinner!

2006-05-02 Thread marilyn
You can see each segment at these URLs below: Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcIRXur61II Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN0INDOkFuo Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJvar7BKwvQ D. Mindock wrote: I watched the two parts of the video at Democratic Underground. Dubya is

Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer

2006-05-02 Thread Thomas Kelly
Hi Bob, What do you mean a dilute solution? I sprayed the FFAs, full strength, on the leaves of some weeds. One day later ~24hrs, the leaves were browning and wilted. How would I test the pH of FFAs? I use wide range pH paper to test my wash water. I don't think they'll work on FFAs.

Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer

2006-05-02 Thread bob allen
Howdy Thomas Kelly wrote: Hi Bob, What do you mean a dilute solution? I sprayed the FFAs, full strength, on the leaves of some weeds. I guess my assumption was wrong- when I recover ffa's I get a very viscous liquid which would be hard to spray. but then my wvo is about half

[Biofuel] From a Congresswoman, Diana DeGette (D-CO)

2006-05-02 Thread D. Mindock
When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living in society, they create for themselves, in the course of time, a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it. Frederic Bastiat, The Law (1850) = It is

Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer

2006-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Tom Hi Keith, Good for you! Thirty years in the same place? This is the 28th year for this garden. I don't even want to think about how many places I've lived in in the last 28 years. I'm trying to do the same thing here in 18 months! Well, I've done it before. I'd just love to go on

Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

2006-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Tom Thanks for the reply. Keith, For me, the key to trusting gravity/settling rather than filtering WVO was: getting swamped w. WVO when I first started production, and reading in one of your posts that you don't filter; you rely on gravity. Oh. I'd forgotten I'd said that. :-)

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Mike Hi...I'd like to hear the list's opinion about the process developed by Iogen to produce cellulosic ethanol. Goldman Sachs announced yesterday (May 1) an investment of $30million Canadian in the company. Royal Dutch/Shell, Petro-Canada, and the Canadian Gov't have also all partnered

Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer

2006-05-02 Thread Thomas Kelly
Bob, In response to my note: One day later ~24hrs, the leaves were browning and wilted. You wrote: I sure would like to see some references on the mechanism of this effect. I wonder if the FFAs are disrupting the structure of cell membranes. All cell membranes are phospholipid

Re: [Biofuel] Water from Acid process

2006-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Sty Dear Sir, I have a question tobe solved by the experts in this forum. Everybody is still learning. In biodiesel production with acid-base process, is it a limitation of FFA content without water separation (produced by esterification stage) before entering the base-process

[Biofuel] Fw: State of Union

2006-05-02 Thread D. Mindock
MUST SEE! White House Damaged National Security in Authorizing Valerie Plame Outing: MSNBC Report. Bush and His Cohorts are Likely Guilty of Treason: She Allegedly Was Monitoring Iran. http://www.bradblog.com/archives/2764.htm ___ Biofuel

Re: [Biofuel] From a Congresswoman, Diana DeGette (D-CO)

2006-05-02 Thread DHAJOGLO
I was under the impression that the patriot act already pretty much covered this type of records mandating. I wonder what they gain by inacting it at a state level. On Tuesday, May 02, 2006 12:26 PM, D. Mindock wrote: Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 12:26:59 -0500 From: D. Mindock To:

Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

2006-05-02 Thread mark manchester
Hi Keith, Tom, Thanks again for this useful information. But please, on the Super Easy Titration Chart: what lye water? Lye mixed with water, okay sure, but no, wait, how much water? I'm very confused. Jesse This US chart, a Super Easy Titration Table for making biodiesel, classifies less

[Biofuel] Parrot's oratory stuns scientists

2006-05-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
Sadly many think mankind is the only sentient life. Makes it easier to abuse animals I suppose. Kirk : Parrot's oratory stuns scientistsLast Updated: Monday, 26 January, 2004, 15:27 GMThttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3430481.stmParrot's oratory stuns scientistsBy Alex KirbyBBC News

Re: [Biofuel] From a Congresswoman, Diana DeGette (D-CO)

2006-05-02 Thread Zeke Yewdall
This isn't at a state level. Diana DeGette is a US rep, not a state rep, unless I'm all confused about who the bozos here in Colorado have elected. If you think the democrats from Colorado are bad, try to republicans -- Wayne Allard, Tom Tancredo, and Marilyn Musgrave, to name a few On

Re: [Biofuel] sun-grown coffee deforestation

2006-05-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
I would assume not harvested with herbicide Not exactly Juan Valdez and his burro but a far cry from MonsantoKirkChris Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I find I can only tolerate organic coffee. I did not realise the organic labelmeant it had to be hand picked, I just thought it

Re: [Biofuel] sun-grown coffee deforestation

2006-05-02 Thread Kirk McLoren
laotel.com? Are you in Thailand? Yes, a good cup of coffee is a delight. Are you a grower?Kirklres1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kirk, This may be truein some cases and in some types of beans, there are some real horrible concoctions under the term coffees out there that shouldbe

[Biofuel] Manipulation of The People

2006-05-02 Thread D. Mindock
I think we cannot ever be free independent thinker/doers until we learn how we are, often willingly, used to fulfill other people's sneaky agendas, always at our loss. Peace, D. Mindock Manipulation of The People ā€” The Rudiments of Propaganda Andrew Pā€”09/2003 (updated 09/05) Despite

Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer

2006-05-02 Thread Ryan Pope
From what I remember from my botany courses, plant leaves are also very tightly regulated to reduce water loss. A leaf is basically a large, flat surface coursing with fluid; exactly what you would do to promote evaporation. To slow evap., most leaves have passive pores that close in dry

Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

2006-05-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Jesse Hi Keith, Tom, Thanks again for this useful information. But please, on the Super Easy Titration Chart: what lye water? Lye mixed with water, okay sure, but no, wait, how much water? I'm very confused. Jesse It means millilitres of 0.1% NaOH solution, which is what's used in

[Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider

2006-05-02 Thread D. Mindock
Subject: I'm the Decider Bush said the other day, "I am the decider". The following is from dailykos.com.Well, it took me awhile, but I finally realized what"I'm the decider" reminds me of. It sounds likesomething a character in a Dr. Seuss book might say.So with apologies to the late

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider

2006-05-02 Thread Appal Energy
Groovy dude!!! Where can I get the t-shirt? D. Mindock wrote: Subject: I'm the Decider Bush said the other day, I am the decider. The following is from dailykos.com. Well, it took me awhile, but I finally realized what I'm the decider reminds me of. It sounds

Re: [Biofuel] sun-grown coffee deforestation

2006-05-02 Thread lres1
Kirk, I am an operator in many fields from electronics to sustainable live stock and forestation and alternative fuels from wastes. Treading a very unstable and un-balanced line between the haves and the have nots and those that will never have. It is obligatory to educate ourselves with

Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider

2006-05-02 Thread Jason Katie
id wear it, no argument at all, whos going to be printing them? - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 11:57 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: I'm the Decider Groovy dude!!! Where can I get the t-shirt? D.