Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
Southern Kaliforn-I-eh. By December's end, 2007. Plant is or has already been contracted upon and should be completed by then. Don't think it's quite yet proper to say what firm is financing it, at least not until they issue their first press release, which they may have already done for all

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
We might even be able to harvest those algae blooms and make biodiesel from it. Or begin remediation and interception projects to harvest algae? Lake Apopka in Florida used to be the world's best bass fishing (before mercury bioaccumation manifested itself as a reality). People flocked there

[Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread Mike Redler
Hi everyone, As with many in this forum, I've been trying to stay cool today without switching on the AC. It's tempting but, so far I've resisted. I was standing under the shower head, thinking about what my air conditioner might be doing had it been turned on. Specifically, how the condenser

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
Actually that's a conservative value. See http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html and calculate what you come up with in square feet under roof with a 30' eave. The proto's already proven the values. All that remains is to upscale. Todd Swearingen Kirk McLoren wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
Tom, Per horizontal acre, with the algae growing vertically. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html Bookmark that page and think about buying stock in the manufacturers of the technology. That is if you have all your credit cards payed off first. Todd Swearingen Right

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
We might even be able to harvest those algae blooms and make biodiesel from it. Or begin remediation and interception projects to harvest algae? Lake Apopka in Florida used to be the world's best bass fishing (before mercury bioaccumation manifested itself as a reality). People flocked there

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
Tom, Per horizontal acre, with the algae growing vertically. http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.html Bookmark that page and think about buying stock in the manufacturers of the technology. That is if you have all your credit cards payed off first. Todd Swearingen Tom

Re: [Biofuel] Coal

2006-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
The answer is simple. Existing Infrastructure, capitalizing on it and profit. Hoodwinking (manipulation) is all a part of the game. Todd Swearingen JJJN wrote: I have never understood why when they know that putting it in the air is bad they would start to try and mess up the aquifers too.

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
So in short Todd, as with the last 25 years, there is no biodiesel from algae right now on Planet Earth, but hey! it's just around the corner (December next year this time). Ho-hum, yawn... Ho-hum yawn ANYWAY, because, frankly, so what? Are you really thinking in the same corporatist and/or

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread D. Mindock
Well, I guess we could always eat it, the non-toxic types anyway. WRT blooms, some of those are quite nasty. Isn't algae farming a big business in Japan? Do they make anything beside algae supplement tablets with it? (The wife and I take algae supplements.) Peace, D. Mindock - Original

Re: [Biofuel] Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-03 Thread DB
I had an 02 volkswagon golf that I put 30,000 miles on.(100% bio)there were no problems till the engine light went on. We took it too a couple of shops with no results and had to take it to the dealer. $1600 poorer all I knew is that the injector pump had to be replaced because the fuel

Re: [Biofuel] Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-03 Thread Steve Barton
Thank for the input and info so far. Still pushing forward with a processor, but would like to hear more from anyone that has had trouble with the newer engines. Please keep them coming. Thanks, Steve - Original Message - From: DB To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent:

Re: [Biofuel] Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
Thank for the input and info so far. Still pushing forward with a processor, Start with the process, not with the processor, the processor comes later. Start here: Where do I start? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start Follow the instructions, step by step. Study everything on

[Biofuel] Fwd: Eat To Live: GM cornfields under attack

2006-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
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Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread Joe Street
Hey Mike; Liquid cooled compressors are nothing new. You're right water is an excellent coolant and you could do an experiment by simply setting up a garden sprayer or mister next to the radiator element on your central AC unit and see how much quicker it cycles on and off on a given day's air

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread bob allen
It's being done all over the country. It's called ground source heat pumps. the condenser uses the ground (more specifically water in it) as the heat sink. It is fairly simple set up if you have a well. If not a contractor Takes a back hoe and lays plastic pipe horizontally for hundreds of

Re: [Biofuel] Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-03 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The fuel sensor that failed is actually about a $50 part, but the dealer can't replace it separately from the injection pump. I've heard of a couple people experiencing that, and the independent mechanics with biodiesel experience have told me what the deal usually is. But since these cars are

[Biofuel] when chaos replaces oil

2006-08-03 Thread AltEnergyNetwork
When chaos replaces oil http://www.hbtoday.co.nz/localnews/storydisplay.cfm?storyid=3694928thesection=localnewsthesubsection=thesecondsubsection= KATHY WEBB Peter Lloyd is preparing for a ghastly future. The world he foresees is one in which it will cost $700 or $1000 to fill the family

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Mike Redler. I did have the same idea by observing big air conditioner units that uses a spray of water on a cooling tower for evaporation of the hot water and recycle the fresh water for cooling the hot side heat exchanger or condenser. In my home air conditioner, I just put a plug on

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
Whats the relative humidity where you are? KirkMike Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone,As with many in this forum, I've been trying to stay cool today without switching on the AC. It's tempting but, so far I've resisted.I was standing under the shower head, thinking about what my air

Re: [Biofuel] when chaos replaces oil

2006-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
I am sure that at 20 dollars a gallon there would be a stampede of growers to furnish oil let alone 700. I think the good doctor has been whiffing his own gas ;)KirkAltEnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When chaos replaces oil

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
I didnt see mention of 10^5 gallons of oil. Idid seemention of scrubbing stack gasses.KirkAppal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually that's a conservative value.Seehttp://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/12/greenshift_lice.htmland calculate what you come up with in square feet under roof

Re: [Biofuel] safe temperature

2006-08-03 Thread Derick Giorchino
DOES THE PROCESSED BIO GET JELLY LIKE WHEN COOL? IF SO I HAVE FOUND THAT THE METHOXIDE WAS TOO WEAK. Try taking 1/2 liter samples and do tests by adding 1/2 gram pre mix met oxide at a time in a pet bottle until you get separation after getting separation keep adding 1/2 gram mixes keep track of

Re: [Biofuel] Using biodiesel in newer truck-cars

2006-08-03 Thread Derick Giorchino
I   have a 04 dodge with a Cummins and have been running it on b100 for 1 ½ years after researching this to death. And finding nothing on bio in late models Cummins talks in circles about bio saying the jury is still out. Although they dont say not to use it they dont say its o.k. so I am

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread Mike Redler
Bob, Joe, et al Sure, that much I knew. But, what I meant by "on the cheap" was to use the existing infrastructure (i.e. existing, underground water lines) as the ground source instead of requiring a new hole to be dug. Sewer lines could be used as a conduit for sending heat out of the house

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
Sewer lines are engineered for the load. Trust me they didnt install larger pipes so you can use them as a heat sink. The smaller the load the cheaper to refrigerate. A "koolsuit" would take maybe 300 watts. The rule of thumb in ac sizing is a ton per dozen occupants.KirkMike Redler [EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread Mike Redler
Understood. But, why would I care if the sewer is a good heat sink? I suggested that the sewer be used as a way of discharging water after it had absorbed heat from inside the house (or apartment). I'm interested in finding a medium which is better than hot summer air for cooling the

Re: [Biofuel] GeoExchange, on the cheap

2006-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
Yes but using water like that certainly is only possible for a few. Most water systems are stressed already. The best method would be to use the latent heat of evaporation. It is important to know the relative humidity where you are. The "koolsuit" is a legitimate suggestion. 10 pounds of ice in

Re: [Biofuel] Future car: What will you be driving?

2006-08-03 Thread Kirk McLoren
So where are these guys published? Such a cell line should be in the literature.KirkAppal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Southern Kaliforn-I-eh.By December's end, 2007. Plant is or has already been contracted upon and should be completed by then.Don't think it's quite yet proper to say what