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Yes, I can imagine 2 passengers having a few drinks, then getting in to an
arguement about something. One of them politely asks a flight attendant for a
few rounds to take out the other one...what fun. I think I'll pass on those
flights as well. Was this nut case, a conservative blogger by
Robert,
The towers and bldg 7 are just part of a larger puzzle. You want to
believe the
buildings all fell down the same exact way, go ahead. But what of the
numerous
explosions throughout the buildings after they were hit by the airliners and
before
they fell? What about the molten steel
Hi,
here in Australia, very little beef is grain fed on feedlots. The majority is
grazed on open grassland. The beef is outside all year, because it is warm
enough all year.
regards Doug
On Tuesday 19 September 2006 5:48, D. Mindock wrote:
More hanky panky from a gov agency that protects
Kirk McLoren wrote:
I was told the problem with synthetics is isomers.
The natural chemical is the correct molecule. Synthetic has a 50-50
racemic mix half good and half bogus biologically.
in some instances yes, in others no. Regardless, it is not an
insurmountable one. Either start with a
Terry Dyck wrote:
Hi Bob,
Joe is right; herbs are better than synthetic drugs for the simple reason
that you just mentioned, drugs have side effects.
might herbs not have side effects because they don't to anything
anyway? (actually they do have side effects when properly tested) The
Osama bin laden is an engineer
Kirk McLoren wrote:
There was no falling until the first failure. A little logic would go a
long way here.
And it fell straight down. If it hadnt the rubble pile would have
extended in the direction of fall.
Not rocket science here. Just basic evidence.
That's a very good point Kirk. I wonder how do the civil engineers
deal with that bit?
Andrew?
Joe
Kirk McLoren wrote:
To fall straight down means the failures supposedly caused by
heat all happened at the same time. In the real world theylean to the
failed side and then forces cause
Actually Terry I think you ment that Kirk was right. Herbs are produced by plants which, for the most part have a comparitively similar biological system (we have 50% the same DNA as a Bananna). That is they produce only one of the two isomers (L instead of both D and L like you would normally get
This one is for the children (if terrorism doesn't work try protecting
children, anything to give up our right
to privacy). This would be ok with me if I could bring myself to trust
Bush-Cheney. But try as I might, I cannot, not at all. Peace, D. Mindock
D. Mindock,
I agree with you for the most part there are a ton of very
suspicious unanswered questions. There are 2 things you say that I can
understand and contradict. I don't know how hot the temps were recorded in
the rubble. So you might prove me wrong, but with decent airflow and
Tallex,
Don't be too harsh... If they want an old west ariline where they can have
shoot outs then they should be able to have it. Just because one nut case came
up with it doesn't mean other nut cases wouldn't love to fly such an airline.
They need a place to shoot each other while
Hey Robert;
That's a fun message but aren't you using fiction to support your
argument? Uhhh fiction you wrote! Kewl. I didn't know one could do
this. I'll remember the technique next time we have our performance
reviews or I get pulled over by the cops for speeding. LOL.
Meanwhile.in
Kirk McLoren wrote:
There was no falling until the first failure.
This means nothing, Kirk. Of COURSE there was no falling until the
first failure.
A little logic would go a long way here.
Indeed!
And it fell straight down. If it hadnt the rubble pile would
have extended in the
Hey Bob;
Again, follow the money. Where is the funding going to come from to
test the efficacy of something anyone can grow and pick themselves.
Drug companies are loathe to spend a dime on any testing unless they are
forced to do so by the regulating bodies. They sure as hell aren't going
D. Mindock wrote:
Robert,
The towers and bldg 7 are just part of a larger puzzle. You want to
believe the buildings all fell down the same exact way, go ahead.
They didn't fall in the exact same way, but the reasons they
collapsed are similar. I've explained this in another post.
this became an issue in Arkansas when a concealed carry law passed.
The question was, are there places that concealed handguns can't be
carried even if you have a permit. Thankfully bars are a place a
concealed weapon can't go.
AltEnergyNetwork wrote:
Yes, I can imagine 2 passengers having
Joe didn't let the cat out of the
bag. It was already out:
http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=14105ch=nanotechsc=pg=1
We have never needed peace more
than now. Bush's dumb cowboy antics are making the US
a heckava lot unsafer. Rep. Dennis Kucinich
wants to establish a Dept
There have been a considerable number of studies on herbs. It is a myth that
herbs haven't
been studied. BTW, an herb is any plant that has
special properties. A carrot might be called an herb since it helps the
eyes. Strawberries slow
down cancer. I.E., they have medicinal properties. Big
I meant about colloidal fuels.
J
D. Mindock wrote:
Joe didn't let the
cat out of the bag. It was already out:
http://www.technologyreview.com/read_article.aspx?id=14105ch=nanotechsc=pg=1
We have never
needed peace more than now. Bush's dumb cowboy antics are making the US
howdy Johnathan ( you better sit down)
Jonathan Hardin wrote:
Actually Terry I think you ment that Kirk was right. Herbs are
produced by plants which, for the most part have a comparitively similar
biological system (we have 50% the same DNA as a Bananna). That is they
produce only one
Joe Street wrote:
Hey Bob;
Again, follow the money. Where is the funding going to come from to
test the efficacy of something anyone can grow and pick themselves.
Drug companies are loathe to spend a dime on any testing unless they are
forced to do so by the regulating bodies. They
Bob,
Good day to you.
I would like to throw in my penny's worth into a discussion between
yourself and Joe S.
Joe: Plants contain many compounds and they can and do work synergistically
when the whole plant is consumed.
Bob: the problem is how do you prove it.
Difficult
D. Mindock wrote:
There have been a considerable number of studies on herbs. It is a myth that
herbs haven't
been studied. BTW, an herb is any plant that has
special properties. A carrot might be called an herb since it helps the
eyes.
your example is proving one of my points. you cant
is there anybody out there who makes biodiesel for home heating using only 10% methanol instead of the prescribed 20%? if so can you give any tips on differences in processing as i am about to begin making test and then 90 liter batches soon?
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bob allen wrote:
this became an issue in Arkansas when a concealed carry law passed.
The question was, are there places that concealed handguns can't be
carried even if you have a permit. Thankfully bars are a place a
concealed weapon can't go.
Point.
That is not logically true.
Bars
I don't disagree with a thing you say here Tom, and as for Howdy, I
guess it does sound humorous outside my midwestern origins but there,
it is quite natural.
so eat and diverse diet, rich in fruits and vegetables...
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Bob,
Good day to you.
I would like to
I stand corrected
Chip Mefford wrote:
bob allen wrote:
this became an issue in Arkansas when a concealed carry law passed.
The question was, are there places that concealed handguns can't be
carried even if you have a permit. Thankfully bars are a place a
concealed weapon can't go.
How were the authorities able to "Pull" , "take down" the partiallydisabled building (building 5 or something) so quickly. doesn't it usually take at lease a few days to set a building up for an explosion/destruction?
Getting rid of the steel from the world trade center, I can understand that.
Hey D.
As much as I am a proponent of the precautionary principle, I must say
that your statement below is a little too broad. Nano sized particles
are not dangerous in and of themselves. Nano particles have been
around on this earth longer than life and all life on this planet
evolved in the
Joe Street wrote:
Hey Robert;
That's a fun message but aren't you using fiction to support your
argument?
Not to support it, but to illustrate it. That's an important
function of literature.
Uhhh fiction you wrote! Kewl. I didn't know one could do
this.
I enjoy writing. The use
Perhaps it's because over my near-on 50 years, I've been around
liguor and guns my whole life, and see no threat.
Like many folks of my background and upbringing, I am a member of the
so-called 'gun culture'. Perhaps I could be button-holed as a reticent
gun nut. But I'm just not that much of a
You can not make biodiesel using only 10% Methanol. A chemical reaction
requires things to be just right, which requires a little more then is
actually needed no get the mixtures where they need to be. Also the amount
of Glycerin in your triglyceride is often more then 10% of the entire thing.
The
Logan is right about using 20% methanol by volume if you want to make
quality biodiesel
Bioheating oil is described at JTF in the section devoted to Heaters,
burners and stoves The process is similar to the single-stage base method,
but uses just 5% methanol by volume.
From
Problem comes when you shoot a hole in that 'metal tube' at 33,000 feet and the plane depressurizes and EVERYONE on board dies.On 9/20/06, DHAJOGLO
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Tallex,Don't be too harsh...If they want an old west ariline where they can have shoot outs then they should be able to have
Very fine aluminum has to be protected from air. Otherwise you will have aluminum oxide. Any reaction proceeds faster if very fine and well mixed. As for nuclear - nope. About as likely as a helium bomb.All the high brisance aluminum stuff I've seen is chlorine based. Thermite is old news.
No, but I know how to read, and I don't limit my reading to conspiracy web sites.Unfortunately since you arent qualified to judge what you read you accept information based on authority. That is a close second to voting on the truth. It seems odd you see organised control in the hydrocarbon
Paul S Cantrell wrote:
Problem comes when you shoot a hole in that 'metal tube' at 33,000 feet and
the plane depressurizes and EVERYONE on board dies.
naw,
that's fiction.
Entertaining though it may have been, Goldfinger wasn't a documentary.
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Actually the carrot contains beta carotene which is used in the body to make vitamin A. It is water soluble and Lorraine Day MD took enough to turn herself orange. She believed it helped her overcome breast cancer. The use of 100,000 units of A a day recovered 30% of lost lung function in a
Not entirely...Mostly depends on how big the hole is. The size of a
finger gets you a loud whistling noise. A larger hole will cause rapid
decompression. God forbid a gunshot caused a window to pop out, or an
emergency door to pop open.On 9/20/06, Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paul S
Thats why air marshalls are supposed to carry Glazer safety slugs.KirkPaul S Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not entirely...Mostly depends on how big the hole is. The size of a finger gets you a loud whistling noise. A larger hole will cause rapid decompression. God forbid a gunshot caused
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Unfortunately since you arent qualified to judge what you read
you accept information based on authority.
What nonsense!!!
Wrap your mind around something written by an engineering firm:
"DID THE
WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS ACTUALLY IMPLODE?
No. They
Kirk McLoren wrote:
Actually the carrot contains beta carotene
yes of course, and it is what makes red palm oil red.
which is used in the body to
make vitamin A. It is water soluble
no kirk, not that it matters here but it is one of the fat soluble
vitamins. It is stored in the liver of
Bob,
I think you are right re: Vit A being toxic. It is definitely
considered to be teratogenic.
I thought it was Vitamin D in polar bear and walrus liver that was
toxic.
One explanation of the evolution of light skin color was based on the
idea that sunlight converts precursors
you're right tom, I got my vitamins A and D commingled.
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Bob,
I think you are right re: Vit A being toxic. It is definitely
considered to be teratogenic.
I thought it was Vitamin D in polar bear and walrus liver that was
toxic.
One explanation of the
It's amazing that the Weight of the airplane alone was enough to not cause
the building to collapse in my opinion.
Logan Vilas
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Thank you for this question .. it was building 7 .. actually it takes quite
a bit longer than a few days .. more like months upon months of meticulous
planning and the careful setting of many, many explosive charges.
I couldn't help notice how, in these explanations defending the official
.more likely a conservative blammer!
regards D
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 5:51, AltEnergyNetwork wrote:
Yes, I can imagine 2 passengers having a few drinks, then getting in to an
arguement about something. One of them politely asks a flight attendant for
a few rounds to take out the
Quoting Joe Street [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
That's a very good point Kirk. I wonder how do the civil engineers
deal with that bit?
Impact happened, jet fuel went everywhere, igniting everything in
its path. The jet fuel would have probably played no part in the
heating after a few minutes,
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON SEPT 11
To: bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quoting bob allen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Bob,
You are streching to find extreme examples from very diferent cultures. I
never consider animal parts to be a herb. Don't herbs have to be part of
the botanical family? It is true that some parts of a few plants are
poisiness. The leaves of rhubard for an example. The red stems of
Hi Bob,
Vitamin A from carrots is actually Pro vitamin A. The body makes vitamin A
from carrots but only as our bodies need the vitamin. Polar bears get their
vitamin A from fish oil. Fish oil can be toxic in very large doses but only
over a very long period of time. Pro vitamin A is never
I have to agree with Chip. I was also raised around guns. I live in
Arizona where we have had concealed carry legislation for many years. I
have a permit and carry 95% of the time. Contrary to anti-gun propaganda, I
don't find myself roaming the streets looking for a confrontation. I have
Quoting Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
No, but I know how to read, and I don't limit my reading to
conspiracy web sites.
Unfortunately since you arent qualified to judge what you read you
accept information based on authority.
Well I'm qualified to judge the data and the WTC
Hi Logan,
What about the building that was not hit by a jet, the building that housed
all of the investigative people who were close to exposing a stock market
cover up, it fell to the ground just like the twin towers?
Terry Dyck
From: Logan vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To:
Quoting Logan vilas [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
It's amazing that the Weight of the airplane alone was enough to not cause
the building to collapse in my opinion.
Without going into the nity grity of structural design, dead load,
live load, second order effect, dynamics, load factoring, material
Well, actually it has been the subject of this topic and has been asked in
at least 3 separate posts .. one post separately and two posts discussing
the three buildings .. two buildings hit by planes and one building Not hit
by planes.
All responses only focused on the two buildings ignoring
Marylynn Schmidt wrote:
Well, actually it has been the subject of this topic and has been asked in
at least 3 separate posts .. one post separately and two posts discussing
the three buildings .. two buildings hit by planes and one building Not hit
by planes.
I've posted info for your
Not so. The WTC towers didn't fall on their own footprints. Many of the surrounding buildings were also damaged as they came down. You're grasping at straws, Kirk!.The rubble pile and its angle of repose is consistent with a vertical collapse. Simple fact. Your struggle with reality is
No - the beta carotene is water soluble. The premise is the body wont make a toxic level of vitamin A from it. As for quack watch they are a bunch of quacks. Good god Bob what do you expect a bunch of allopaths to say about non allopathic medicine? It will be a cold day in hell when they give an
Yeap, when you're losing your argument, look for another stick to beat your opponent.Not at all. Just further illustration the truth is not in them.Kirk[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Kirk McLoren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: No, but I know how to read, and I don't limit my reading to
Kirk McLoren wrote:
The rubble pile and its angle of repose is consistent with a
vertical collapse.
Simple fact.
Your struggle with reality is something to behold.
I think you've got either a reading comprehension problem, or
you're just being obstinate! Please read this AGAIN:
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