Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Allah or Jesus?

2006-11-22 Thread Alon
Dear group And strong believers, to my humble point of view, the most amusing approach to resolve, the conflict between the two large religions the hopefull christianity, and rather extreme Islam, also, to gain some more serene approach towards life here - one must refer to the sorce of these

[Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon 35% increase in a few months?

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread Andres Secco
Think methanol price is strongly dependant of natural gas price which is linked to fuel prices. - Original Message - From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 10:14 AM Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread Logan vilas
My price went from 2.02 a gallon last month to 3.08 a gallon this month Logan Vilas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andres Secco Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:51 AM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
I just got off the phone with my methanol supplier. They are in Albany, NY (Northeastern US). They have been very nice people to work with friendly/helpful. I was told that they had a 35% price increase from their supplier, and passed it along. Is this a world-wide phenomenon or

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread JAMES PHELPS
Tom, Yep, you missed it, I used to think it followed natural gas prices too but that is not the case unless there is a significant market lag that causes the price to lag about a year behind. Wellhead Gas prices have gone down considerably since last year. Someone mentioned that there was a

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread JAMES PHELPS
I just got this also please see http://www.purchasing.com/article/CA6389243.html Jim From: Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:44:45 -0500 I just

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
Jim, Thanks for the reply. I originally got into making biodiesel for environmental reasons. However, I've experienced considerable $ savings . first on fuel for a car and now heating my house/water. I'm spoiled. I have a good, reliable fuel that is much more environmentally

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
Jim, Thanks again. The site you provided answered the question about price Quite a spike. Looks like a combination of demand and decreased production. Continued strong demand and a large number of competitor outages caused an unprecedented shortage of methanol supply in the

Re: [Biofuel] [ ] - SPAM Bayesian Re: Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM
I just sent off a message and I just realized that I got my alcohols mixed up. Water can be reacted with ethylene to form ethanol, not methanol. So I am also at a loss as to why methanol prices would have changed so dramatically. - Original Message - From: JAMES PHELPS [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM
It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol prices have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so. They probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
William, Actually methanol prices have not been directly linked to oil prices. My understanding is that natural gas is the normal feedstock for methanol production. Of course, oil prices do effect distribution costs. I had an interesting discussion with the sales rep. from the chemical

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread leo bunyan
Just got off the dogbone to my supplier here in south coast of NSW Oz 200liters=$314.15 + GST so wack another10% on Thats all in Oz dollars which is about the equivalent value of monopoly mony William do yop have any info on making it from wood? Leo VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread JAMES PHELPS
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/wood_alcohol.html Jim From: leo bunyan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2006 09:12:42 +1100 (EST) Just got off the dogbone to my

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase?

2006-11-22 Thread leo bunyan
Of course check the library Thanks Jim JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/wood_alcohol.html Jim From: leo bunyan Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Date: Thu, 23

[Biofuel] IRAQ - The Death Squads (Documentary) on Google Video

2006-11-22 Thread Kirk McLoren
IRAQ - The Death Squads (Documentary) on Google Video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2672821173995817383pr=goog-sl Just whom are we supporting? Kirk - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail

[Biofuel] FLU SHOTS CONTAIN MERCURY

2006-11-22 Thread Mike Weaver
*SURVEY OF THE WEEK:* *FLU SHOTS CONTAIN MERCURY* A survey of over 9,000 Americans found that an overwhelming majority of people had no idea their flu shots contain mercury. More than 75 percent of Americans feel a mercury-containing flu shot should not be given to a pregnant woman or a child,