[Biofuel] In other news. Milk labelling controvery in US

2007-12-20 Thread Chip Mefford
Something I've been following in my neighboring state of Pennsylvania in the US. --- The most succinct write up I've seen on this subject can be found here: http://www.voicesweb.org/?q=node/1100 In a nutshell. Pennsylvania being one of the few remaining states in the US that is still quite

Re: [Biofuel] In other news. Milk labelling controvery in US

2007-12-20 Thread Walker Bennett
@sustainablelists.org/ Walker Sedona, Az In The Beginning - ISBN: 1-4116-3848-4 Just In Time - ISBN 1-4116-3851-4 Ad Astra - ISBN: 978-1847285188 -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20071220/c2c613d1/attachment.html

Re: [Biofuel] In other news. Milk labelling controvery in US

2007-12-20 Thread Chip Mefford
Walker Bennett wrote: Monsanto wins another one. BIG SNIP Not necessarily; There has been significant push back. This 'law' (passed under less than auspicious circumstances) is prompting lawsuits against the state. Personally, I tend to view lawsuits as counterproductive, but then again, I

Re: [Biofuel] In other news. Milk labeling controversy in US

2007-12-20 Thread Andy Karpay
It's all here. Monsanto doesn't want any information out that they do not control. We cannot say we don't use their product because it IMPLIES there is something wrong with it, even if we don't use it because we don't like the color. This has gone on forever. Monsanto 'coincidently' was also

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-20 Thread Thomas Kelly
Hi All, An agriculture class just left my house. Their teacher brought them over to see my biodiesel setup. The stop at my place was to be just a short detour on their way to see a large greenhouse operation at the Institute for Ecosystem Studies (I.E.S; associated with Cornell University).

Re: [Biofuel] In other news. Milk labeling controversy in US

2007-12-20 Thread Chip Mefford
Andy Karpay wrote: It's all here. Monsanto doesn't want any information out that they do not control. We cannot say we don't use their product because it IMPLIES there is something wrong with it, even if we don't use it because we don't like the color. Yes. This is part of the issue. But

Re: [Biofuel] In other news. Milk labelling controvery in US

2007-12-20 Thread keith
Hi Chip Aurora Organic Dairy's allegedly organic milk fiasco is another side to the story. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iEPGS-Y0dThhK9jWDvh0OaaJUfQQD8TGE5RO0 Lawsuits Allege Milk Wasn't Organic These cows are all penned in factory-confinement conditions. Walmart, Target, Costco, Wild Oats

Re: [Biofuel] Did David Pimentel win?

2007-12-20 Thread keith
Hi Dawie But note how I still haven't really captured the point I'm trying to make? I fear it'll take a book. :-) I think you did pretty well. Sorry about the old girlfriend though. Nothing wrong with an 80mpg car in itself. It's just that, produced by the current industrial system, while it

Re: [Biofuel] In other news. Milk labelling controvery in US

2007-12-20 Thread Chip Mefford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Chip Aurora Organic Dairy's allegedly organic milk fiasco is another side to the story. http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iEPGS-Y0dThhK9jWDvh0OaaJUfQQD8TGE5RO0 Lawsuits Allege Milk Wasn't Organic These cows are all penned in factory-confinement conditions.

[Biofuel] Sustainable Biodiesel Summit 2008

2007-12-20 Thread Bruno M.
Sustainable Biodiesel Summit 2008 February 2nd 3rd 2008 Gaylord Palms Resort Convention Center, Kissimmee, Florida The 5th Annual Sustainable Biodiesel Summit is the place to be to learn why sustainability is important to the industry, share technical experience and exchange best practices

Re: [Biofuel] In other news. Milk labelling controvery in US

2007-12-20 Thread fresheggs141
I have a raw milk dairy in massachusettes, i wouldn't waste my time or money on calling it organic, if i did i may wake up one day and find i'm out of buisness . Eventually the public is going to figure out that corporate america has turned ORGANIC into another marketing gimmick. when you come