Hi Keith and Everyone,
#6Detailed Description of the Preferred Embodiments
As the reaction proceeds, glycerol and the alkyl esters of the glyceride
are produced. Glycerol has low solubility in critical fluids such as CO2 and
propane which will cause the glycerol product to drop
out of
Hi Keith and Everyone,
Don't know if anyone is still interested in this stuff, as
someone posted a message that the patent could be viewed on a website that they
gave the address to, so if anyone wants me to continue after this post please
let me know.
#5 Detailed
Hi Keith and Everyone,
#4 Detailed Description of the Preferred Embodiments Continued
In the case of mono,di, and triglycerides, fats and oils, R1 is the aliphatic
hydrocarbon (C4 to C24)
chain, R2 is glycerol and R3 is a hydrocarbon group, and preferably a short-
chain alkyl group,
Hi Keith,Dana,And Everyone,
#3 Detailed Description of the Preferred Embodiments
The present invention describes a process for reacting organic compounds
having the generic
formula R1COOR2 with short-chain (C1 to C4) alcohols in a single critical
fluid phase over an
acidic or basic
Hi Keith and Everyone, #2
It is the object of the present invention to provide a process for
reacting triglyceride-
and free fatty acid-containing substances capable of completing the reaction in
significantly
less time than present conventional
Hi Keith,Dana,and Everyone,
I'm going to send one page per
e-mail, and I'm not going to send
Claims, Prior Art,or the Abstract, as I see no real reason to waste effort on
these things, so lets
begin !
#1Summary
Hi Keith and Everyone,
I would be glad to post a small part of the process
using a solid catalyst from the Fox/Ginosaur et al
Patent. Hopefully this will give everyone an idea as to
how difficult the process really is and may shed some
light on the ongoing mystery about this fabled process.
It
Hi Arne,
This is not the Patent on the biodiesel process !
David Cruse
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From: Arne P. Ryason [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Solid Catalyst
I just did a search of the US
://journeytoforever.org/
Hi David
I would like to see the patent. If you could upload it into the files
section instead of an email it may stay easier to find
Regards
JohnH
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Hi Keith and Everyone,
I would be glad to post
Hi Christian and Everyone,
I'm not sure if you folks were in
this group last year or not, but
if you are interested in using solid catalyst or other methods to make
biodiesel, might I
suggest that you look in the US Patent office website www.uspto.gov .
Hi Greg,
I checked out this website, found no wormgard. When you click on
the address you have listed it goes to a site called analogx !
Regards,
David Cruse
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From: greg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 6:45 PM
Subject:
Hi Andrew,
The Fox / Ginosaur biodiesel Patent is assigned to Lockheed-
Martin Idaho Technologies Company . It is at www.delphion.com ,
under a World Intellectual Property Organization International
Patent ! Unfortunately delphion.com is now charging $75.00US
a month to access their database of
BlankHi Everyone,
Sorry for the goof on the uspto website address. The right
address is as Hanns said, www.uspto.gov . I guess I was a
little tired at the time, I had read so many things last night.
So please excuse the goof !
If anyone out there has any new info on using soapstock
as a
BlankHi Everyone,
Here is something of interest for all you folks interested
in making and using ethanol in the biodiesel process.
At www.uspto.com under patent number 4,695,411 there
are 12 Examples of different ways to manufacture ethyl
esters from different feedstocks. One Example uses
Hi Keith and Everyone,
I personally think that they will win by force of money
and political influence. The financial might these corporations
wield is enough to win in most any arena they enter.
David Cruse
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From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
Hi Christopher,
Well said !! I notice that number 1. on your list is
be self reliant ! In my time here on Earth I have also
noticed that the folks who subscribe to this self evident
truth that we all need to be self reliant in every way
possible are always the people that care the most about
Hi Cordain,
Have you looked for a bakery or a plant that turns out fried
snacks like potato chips etc in your area, a donut company
is also a good bet, for your oil needs ? You may have to go
just a little farther than you anticipated for your oil supply.
Restaurants are not always a good bet !
Hi Kirk and Everyone,
That`s what is so great about being from the South (Georgia) !
Everyone from the South is labeled from birth as a Rebel and
as such we get to be as crazy and 'non-model American' as we
like ! This is very convenient when someone expects you to go along
with the rest of the
Hi Todd,
Great post !!
David Cruse
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 1:24 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Mixing times for complete reactions
I know that there are differing beliefs on this list as to
Hi Gerry,
That sounds like you are paying too much
for the methanol. I don`t know where you are located,
but if you`re near a large city, try the yellow pages under
Chemicals. You should be able to find a supplier that
will give you a decent price. Here in Atlanta,Ga. I can
buy a
Hi Keith Steve,
I would like to know an easy way, if
there is one, to figure what my cost will be, in a
gallon
of biodiesel, in any given batch that I process.
How do
you figure in your start up costs i.e. equipment,
chemicals,
etc. ?
Thanks,
David Cruse P.S. Congrats on the
new site.
??? ( i.e. 3.000
l)???
Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil
petrolferoLa solucin a sus problemas energticos.
http://sitio.de/energiahttp://journeytoforever.org/energiaweb/
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From:
david e cruse
Hi Cordain,
Can`t be of much help on your questions
about these things, but just wanted to say thanks for
your answers to my question about costs.
David Cruse
Atlanta,Ga.
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From: doctor who [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Hi David R.,
Thanks for the info. Off the topic of
miniturbines---What is the best way to figure the
cost per gallon of the biodiesel you make, is there a
general formula or do you have to figure down to
the smallest expense you incur , and tally everything up,
and then do an
Hi Jerry,
The price of diesel here in Georgia USA
is $1.30 9/10 to $1.39 9/10 right now. I travel
the Interstate hwy every day so I see a lot of truckstops,
I`ll be glad to keep the prices posted if it will help.
David Cruse
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From: jerry dycus
Hi Dana Ed,
Here are some of the current microturbine websites:
www.microturbine.com this is the Capstone Corp. site
www.honeywell.com this is the Honeywell/Allied Signal
site, they sell the Parallon 75 microturbine.
www.ingersoll-rand.com they have a good lineup and
are adding more in the
OK folks,
Jimmy only had one term in office, but by
golly he gave it his best shot. Ronald the raygun
tried to wipe out everything Jimmy started and
darn near suceeded. For a peanut farmer Jimmy
did pretty good and is still a good man .
Another Georgia boy,
David Cruse
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For a peanut farmer Jimmy
did pretty good and is still a good man .
Jimmy is a great man, but you know the whole peanut farmer thing,
although true, has always been a PR thing to make him appeal to the
common man. The man has a PhD
available and they are sent all
over the world.
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From: david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] The MN Way
Hi David R.,
Nothing yet on the price David. I think their plans
Hi Ian,
Excellent work ! Your efforts are greatly appreciated !
David Cruse
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From: ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2001 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Revised reactor schematic ver1bMa
sorry, heres the link
HI Ian,
Well you`ve really done it this time ! It is absolutely
fantastic ! A Gold Star effort without a doubt.
David Cruse
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From: ian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2001 5:57 PM
Subject: [biofuel] step by step schematic of 2
Hi Keith and Terry at Biofuels and Aleks if you`re
out there,
Forget the lipase thing I brought up and take
a look at this at www.delphion.com ,
WO 00/05327. This is the process I was looking
for to begin with. There are references to it
all over the web.
Hi Michael,
Didn`t see your post before I made my
reply to Keith and Terry. If you have time
and it sounds like you have some nice
equipment; take a look at www.delphion.com
under biodiesel at WO 00/05327 and see
what you think.
David Cruse
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Hi B. Mulliken,
All fuel cells that I have seen on the market
so far are reformers and what they reform
is a fossil fuel such as natural gas, methanol,
( methanol from synthesis of fossil fuel such as
natural gas), and other unpleasant fossil derived
things!
Hi Todd,
You`re right . But they do give a list of
the solid inorganic oxides which are among
those used in the process described in
claim 8 . Maybe someone among us can
help with this stuff. I`m going to talk to two
of my friends here who have some
,
Have just looked at the abstract at this point but suspect
they may mean a centrifugal separator such as an Alfa Laval or Sharples at
this point.
B.r., David
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From: david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2001 3:22
Hi Keith,
That`s a trade secret!! You know I
was thinking the same thing about the fuel cells.
Of course they will never think of it, they have
been breathing petrol fumes to long and are
hopelessly addicted.
David Cruse
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From: Keith
Hi Terry,
Don`t know that one. But heard many times
that their fuell cells use plain water.
They have probably developed more technology
with the solar panels. I don`t go to the NASA
site too often, and there are other space tech
sites I don`t check in
Hi David R.
Distillation does seem to be the way, the
Gen. Mgr. at OAE says that`s the way they use,
and they have a million gals. a yr. !
David Cruse
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From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 5:41 PM
Subject: Re:
separator might do the
majority of it and you might then be able to ship it to a more central
point
for ion-exchange resin treatment and distillation or whatever is required.
B.r., David
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From: david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday
Hi David R.,
I agree, glycerol is an opportunity for everyone
to offset some expenses if not make a good profit for the effort. Better
green folks than the big corporate
types, and besides that with a little economic muscle
among the green, we could bring some impact
to the market place. I
Hey Todd,
That sounds great , and would be fantastic ! Thank
you. I am not in a rural area here so we are going
to have to deal with that by either leasing , or
purchasing a couple of acres to put up a facility.
We want to produce power with the biodiesel
as our fuel, that way we can have the
Hi Todd,
Sorry didn`t look before I replied to your message
to David Reid. Anyway I would have sent it
to you anyway.
David Cruse
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2001 9:56 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Enzymes
Hi Todd,
Just found process using lipase enzymes as
catalyst to make biodiesel . Makes glycerol
recovery easy, has minimal waste residues,
you can recycle your catalyst, and you can
use high fatty acid feedstock, low reaction
temperatures, and get a high
was Re: [biofuel] washing bio-diesel
David C,
Do you have a ref or a title?
B.r., David
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From: david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2001 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: Solid Catalyst was Re: [biofuel] washing
Craig ( Green Bay )
Yes those units will work for methanol/ethanol
recovery when you`re making biodiesel. Cost
would be your only consideration. I have seen
the same kind of equipment on other websites.
David Cruse
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From: cpech [EMAIL
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From: david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
Hi David R.
Thank you , I will remind you later on.
Thanks again,
David Cruse
Biofuel at Journey to Forever
of them) most had a bulk tank from 500-5000
gallon capacity, insulated and chillable. Not much of a cash market,
so the plate of cookies and ya know.
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Hi Todd,
Thanks for the info on the tanks.
David Cruse
Hi David R.
Thanks again.
David Cruse
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From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
David,
Normally go into the city once or twice a week anyway to get
supplies
Hi David R.
Thank you for taking the time, and I agree
on the small plant scenario. I will try to get
the first book you mention asap. There is some
good info at www.britannica.com . I started out
by just entering glycerol, and that is a short
entry, three
Hey David R.
If that message was directed at me (David C.)
That would be kind indeed !
David Cruse
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From: David Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 10:18 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
Hi David,
Hi Todd S
Thanks for the info on methanol recovery.
I found a metal shop in my area and the
man who owns the place is skilled in
stainless steel work. He gave me some great
prices on building process tanks, and building
what you described for the alcohol
Hi Ralph,
Hey that would be great wouldn`t it.
I`m checking on what it would cost to
build a 500 gal stainless mixing tank.
Regular diesel is selling for $1.39 9/10
in my area today (Atlanta,Ga.).
David Cruse
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From: Ralph Chamberlain
Hi Ed,
Outstanding , right on the money !
Amen,
David Cruse
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From: NBT - E. Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 12:57 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Conservation may be a virtue...
FAO/Politics/Environment/Social
FYI:
Hi Dana,
Check out these websites for steam stuff.
www.claytonindustries.com (compact steam boilers)
www.trigenewingpower.com
www.coppus.com (steam turbines)
www.tuthill.com (coppus corporate home)
www.ttboilers.com
One of these has a 10hp unit . I`m very
interested in using
Hi Folks,
Todd brought up something interesting here.
Solid catalyst ! Could someone please tell
those of us who don`t know. What do you
use as a solid catalyst ? And explain the
way to use it .
Thanks,
David Cruse
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From: Appal Energy
to you in a week give me a reminder. Both
books were good but one was excellent.
B.r., David
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From: david e cruse [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2001 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerin
Hey David R
Hi Todd,
Thanks for the info on the tanks.
David Cruse
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From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:22 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Stainless Steel Tank Sources
http://www.upe.com/GetSubCat.html/786
Hi Keith,
Wouldn`t it be great if Americans started
becoming more dependent on biodiesel !
This is what I hope happens!! Cummins diesel
engines are available in Dodge pickup trucks,
and Ford is putting their own diesel in some
pickups. Now if all the others
Hi Ed,
You may be right about the soap !
Only problem is there are so many people
making handmade/ hand crafted soap and
all the other craft things that it makes it
difficult to find a good market !
Anyway thanks for the thought.
David Cruse
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Hi David,
Thanks for the info. I talked to the General
Manager of Ocean Air Environmental ( formerly
NOPEC ) in Florida and he told me that they
have a difficult time with glycerin also. But it`s
still on my list of things to accomplish !
David Cruse
-
Ralph,
There is a political base for soybeans and
other vegetable products that can be used to make
biodiesel because of the farm lobby . Farmers get
money or subsidies for crops they can`t grow
and bring to market. That is to say, if you are a
farmer and
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