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Ken Riznyk
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Ken Riznyk wrote:
>I was at a Penn State lecture on global warming. In the parking lot they had a
>hybrid car. Biodiesel and electric. There was also a tank of hydrogen in the
>trunk. The fellow there said that the hydrogen boosts the power of the
>biodiesel. He didn't seem to know much. I aske
ed to the range. Anybody hear about boosting power
with hydrogen? Seems like a lot of extra trouble to me.
Ken
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From: Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2008 5:38:02 PM
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Just the batteries.
Z
On Feb 2, 2008 5:20 AM, John Mullan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Zeke: Are you talking about $30K to change out a battery pack, or a
> whole lithium based vehicle for $30K? Seems to me that would be a real
> bargain.
>
> Cheers
> John
>
> Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> > ...snip...
John Mullan wrote:
> I think we're deviating from the original subject, but I'd like to add
> that I wish the Chevy Volt was more than a concept car. Would fill the
> gap until all electric has suitable range. Topping up at work likely
> wouldn't be an issue for me.
I'll wholeheartedly agree
I think we're deviating from the original subject, but I'd like to add
that I wish the Chevy Volt was more than a concept car. Would fill the
gap until all electric has suitable range. Topping up at work likely
wouldn't be an issue for me.
Cheers.
Alan Petrillo wrote:
> John Mullan wrote:
>
Chris Burck wrote:
> nothing suicidal about it! seriously. i don't mean to sermonize, but
> isn't conservation and environmental concern at the heart of this
> list?
Well, yes, but there are realities of life. The Howard Frankenstein
Bridge is exciting enough at the best of times. When it's
nothing suicidal about it! seriously. i don't mean to sermonize, but
isn't conservation and environmental concern at the heart of this
list? i drive 50-55 on the interstate all the time (yeah, i'm the
one), and trust me, it's *way* safer than driving 25mph faster. even
with all the crazy people
Chris Burck wrote:
> 75mph is pretty fast! even if that's the limit where you live,
> there's also a minimum speed. 50 or 55 in most every state. try it
> out, you'll save on fuel.
Saving fuel is one thing, being suicidal is another.
AP
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Biofu
75mph is pretty fast! even if that's the limit where you live,
there's also a minimum speed. 50 or 55 in most every state. try it
out, you'll save on fuel.
On 2/2/08, Alan Petrillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Mullan wrote:
> > Even better with my 50 mile commute. My wife's career is here
John Mullan wrote:
> Even better with my 50 mile commute. My wife's career is here, mine 50
> miles out. No savings by moving, still adds up to 100 miles per day. :(
My problem is that I have stretches of interstate highway no matter how
I go, so I need a vehicle that will go 75mph, and keep
Even better with my 50 mile commute. My wife's career is here, mine 50
miles out. No savings by moving, still adds up to 100 miles per day. :(
Alan Petrillo wrote:
> John Mullan wrote:
>
>> Zeke: Are you talking about $30K to change out a battery pack, or a
>> whole lithium based vehicle
i suspect 30k is probably a fairly realistic ballpark to perform a
lithium-based BEV conversion on an existing IC vehicle. or at the
very least provide the batteries. i'm really just guessing, though. .
. .
On 2/2/08, Alan Petrillo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John Mullan wrote:
> > Zeke: Are y
John Mullan wrote:
> Zeke: Are you talking about $30K to change out a battery pack, or a
> whole lithium based vehicle for $30K? Seems to me that would be a real
> bargain.
Indeed it would. If I could find a Lithium BEV that cheap that would do
what I need then I might look seriously into it
Zeke: Are you talking about $30K to change out a battery pack, or a
whole lithium based vehicle for $30K? Seems to me that would be a real
bargain.
Cheers
John
Zeke Yewdall wrote:
> ...snip...
>For about
> $30k, you can fairly easily get 100+ mile range on a plain battery EV.
>
>
Yes, current fuel cells lack peak power ability -- they do make a good
hybrid with a battery electric, but alone, I don't believe the
performance isn't so great.
Besides the issue of the inefficiency of hydrogen generation and
transformation back to electricity, there is the issue of cost -- the
t
Actually, a fuel cell alone does have some resemblance to "current"
(pre-hybrid) car technology.
Batteries not only provide high power for acceleration and passing, but
they recover energy otherwise lost in braking.
Unless fuel cells become as cheap and light as combustion engines for
the powe
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] [BULK] Re: Hydrogen Car Sighting
I am confused about your analysis James. How is a fuel cell the same as
a current car technology?
A hydrogen fuel cell has 0 moving parts, and produces electricity for an
electric car. The Fuel Cell is a rep
I am confused about your analysis James. How is a fuel cell the same as
a current car technology?
A hydrogen fuel cell has 0 moving parts, and produces electricity for an
electric car. The Fuel Cell is a replacement for batteries.
Frank
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