Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-08 Thread Keith Addison
it, even some >kind of slow drying glue. > >Regards, > >Ivan > > >-- >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:38 AM >To: >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question > >> Hello Ivan >> &g

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-08 Thread Ivan Menchero
- From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 12:38 AM To: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question > Hello Ivan > >>Hi Keith, >> >>Then the original solution I think is ingenious and simple, it might take >>a >

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-07 Thread Randy Johnson
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question > > Great responses, thanks very much to all. I'm sure I'll manage to > make a rose now, it's not a mystery anymore. > > Thanks again - all best > > Keith > > ___

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-07 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Ivan >Hi Keith, > >Then the original solution I think is ingenious and simple, it might take a >little try with the angle of the curvature of the small piece of metal but I >if you have a welding machine would not be too difficult thru trial and >error, and a lot less time consuming than mak

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-07 Thread Keith Addison
Great responses, thanks very much to all. I'm sure I'll manage to make a rose now, it's not a mystery anymore. Thanks again - all best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainable

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-06 Thread Fritz
Hi Keith, one more nickl of mine: a VW classic hubcup musst have the rough shape already fur the dome, Fill the cup with cement,make a box with wood press an other hubcup in the cement filled box and get positiv and negative form out of this. let the ciment dry good out. A framepress with a hydau

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question - a rose by any other form

2010-11-06 Thread Rob Hayes
From: Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sat, November 6, 2010 2:58:56 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question Keith For some reason I woke up this morning thinking about this problem. The alternative to manual metalworking is

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Dawie Coetzee
_ From: Ivan Menchero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Fri, 5 November, 2010 15:58:00 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question Hi Keith, Then the original solution I think is ingenious and simple, it might take a little try with the angle of

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Ivan Menchero
tinkering, > > Looks like it needs some emphasis - it's not fun, it's not a game, > it's work, it has a serious purpose. > > Keith > > >>Ivan >> >> >>-- >>From: "Michael Fleetwood"

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Brian Burke
Dawie If you want to dome a disc shape put it over a soft material, and hammer the inside of the disc. In metalworking a soft base is usually a shot bag, but even a block of wood with a hollowed dish shape carved into it will work, or even on the end grain of a softwood that is flat. By hammer

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
ning a 100-year accumulation by thrifty village folk of anything that looked as if it might be useful some day. Many layers, full of hidden secrets. (But no anvil.) Thanks! Keith >____________ >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: biofuel@sustainable

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Joe I'm sceptical. First, it wouldn't be almost a meter as you say, it's barely even half a metre, unless you've figured a not-overcomplicated way of piping the water out of the top of the backpack tank instead of the bottom. Could be wrong, as ever, but even if it were a whole metre, I

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Joe Street
Another idea that just popped up (pun intended) is what about adapting the ubiquitous PET pop bottle? I wonder with the right amount of heat if the end of one of those could be 'blown' in the way the glass blowers do to make a nice round end and then it could be easily adapted to fit on the c

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Joe Street
What I was picturing was a large tank carried on the back with two flexible hoses with the rose on the end of each. The head pressure from holding the water almost a meter above would result in a larger spray fan actually than you could get from a can. The handles for the roses could be desi

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Joe >Hi Keith; > >If I had to make something like that I would look around for something >that already had the shape and see if I could modify it to work. I've been doing that for 28 years! >There >are metal bowls for example. I have some stainless ones in my kitchen. >There is a flat but I

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Joe Street
Hi Keith; If I had to make something like that I would look around for something that already had the shape and see if I could modify it to work. There are metal bowls for example. I have some stainless ones in my kitchen. There is a flat but I would guess that it is small enough and in the

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
ut, but I didn't want to make the middle thinner, and >>weaker. Maybe if I started out with slightly thicker metal. And, >>indeed, heat it to light yellow. >> >> >The holes would be made afterwards with an awl and hammer on a >> >suitable wood block. Assemb

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
------------- >From: "Michael Fleetwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:39 PM >To: >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question > >> Hi Keith, >> >> Can you make a depression in the end of a hardw

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Dawie Coetzee
rg Sent: Fri, 5 November, 2010 12:39:42 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question Hi Jason Thanks, that's very instructive. It would certainly help if I had an anvil, but I don't. I couldn't get one in Hong Kong, and here in Japan I can't afford one, they're very expen

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Ivan Menchero
think it would work almost the same straight. Happy tinkering, Ivan -- From: "Michael Fleetwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 6:39 PM To: Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question > Hi Keith, >

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Michael Fleetwood
part. > > >That seems to me an appropriately crafts-based way to do it. > > > >I hope this helps. > >It does, in several ways. Thanks very much Dawie. > >Regards > >Keith > > > >-Dawie > > > > > >--- On Tue, 2/11/10, Keith A

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-05 Thread Keith Addison
n.) Anyway, I think I might manage this without an anvil. Thanks again - all best Keith > > Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 01:31:43 +0900 >> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question >> >> Hi Daw

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-04 Thread Jason Mier
> Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 01:31:43 +0900 > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question > > Hi Dawie > >>That sounds hopeful. But wouldn't hammering along the edge thin the > >>metal and

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-04 Thread Keith Addison
Thankyou, one and all - it's not such a puzzle now, I get the feeling I'll manage it if I give it a try, so I will. Fire and ice, great! I won't forget to mumble magical mantras into my beard, and hang wild garlic in the windows. Thanks again - all best Keith _

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-04 Thread Keith Addison
you wouldn't think there was anything so special or unique about it, you should be able to adapt something, improvise, made do, as usual. But it's been 28 years now, in four different countries, with zero result. But this discussion has helped a lot. Thanks Dawie - all best Keith >All the

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Doug >I've looked at the pictures in the links, and since I'm not familiar >with those types of cans I'm still struggling to get an idea of scale. Oh. So they're not ubiquitous then. When you buy 18 litres of liquid (4.76 US gal), what does it come in? I suppose that would be 5 gal. These ca

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-04 Thread Keith Addison
quot;Dawie Coetzee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:58 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question > > >Keith > >>Or use some linseed oil, or this: >> >>Anti-rust Paint from Fish-Scraps - A short guide to t

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-03 Thread Joe Street
Hi Jan; Yes I am interested particularly as a lubricant for ethanol in two stroke engines. Petroleum being highly non polar doesn't work with high ethanol concentrations but castor oil can live together with ethanol and the ever present water molecule. There are other co-solvents such as euca

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-03 Thread doug
Keith Addison wrote: > Hello all > > If you don't mind my asking, I could use a little help with some info > at the Journey to Forever website. > > It's about Chinese watering cans, at this page: > > Appropriate technology> Chinese watering cans > http://journeytoforever.org/at_can.html > > "High-

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-03 Thread Jan Warnqvist
biological oils as raw materials for high-performance lubricants, feel free to adress me. Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: "Dawie Coetzee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question Keith >Or u

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-03 Thread Dawie Coetzee
best -Dawie From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Wed, 3 November, 2010 11:29:19 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question Hi Dawie >Keith > >It looks to me, unless I've misunderstood the fail

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-03 Thread Keith Addison
techniques as the can itself, folded seams >and solder. Yes, that's the easy part. >That seems to me an appropriately crafts-based way to do it. > >I hope this helps. It does, in several ways. Thanks very much Dawie. Regards Keith >-Dawie > > >--- On Tue, 2/11

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Fritz Thankyou, I'd love to have a look at that. When you're ready, can you send me the scan direct, as an email attachment? The list server won't accept attachments, but once I have it I'll upload it at the JtF site and post a link here so anyone can see it. Thanks again - regards Keith

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-03 Thread Dawie Coetzee
techniques as the can itself, folded seams and solder. That seems to me an appropriately crafts-based way to do it.   I hope this helps.   -Dawie   --- On Tue, 2/11/10, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Bi

Re: [Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-02 Thread Fritz
On 10-11-02 02:30 PM, Keith Addison wrote: > Hello all > > If you don't mind my asking, I could use a little help with some info > at the Journey to Forever website. > > It's about Chinese watering cans, at this page: > > Appropriate technology> Chinese watering cans > http://journeytoforever.org/

[Biofuel] A metalworking question

2010-11-02 Thread Keith Addison
Hello all If you don't mind my asking, I could use a little help with some info at the Journey to Forever website. It's about Chinese watering cans, at this page: Appropriate technology > Chinese watering cans http://journeytoforever.org/at_can.html "High-power rose -- tricky to make", it says