Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-29 Thread Jason& Katie
0 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry > Thomas Kelly wrote: > > [snip] >> He was clearly advocating 2%, 5% blends. Why? Is it simply because >> the auto manufacturers will void warrantees at higher blends? If so, why >> not just say so.

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-29 Thread Alan Petrillo
Thomas Kelly wrote: [snip] > He was clearly advocating 2%, 5% blends. Why? Is it simply because > the auto manufacturers will void warrantees at higher blends? If so, why > not just say so. Not the auto manufacturers. Bosch, the largest manufacturer of diesel injection equipment. Bosch

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-24 Thread Zeke Yewdall
The argument that you will hear for justifying the profit taking off blends is that they have to hold different inventories. Nonsense. The stuff is blended at the nozzle. Reset the mixer and pump a different tanker compartment with a different blend than the last one that was filled. Reset it for t

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-24 Thread Appal Energy
or should I plan on making my own forever? > I continue to write to my elected representatives and appreciate your >help in understanding the economics of BD from a commercial production view. >Additions/corrections are always appreciated. >Thanks again, >

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-24 Thread Thomas Kelly
a commercial production view. Additions/corrections are always appreciated. Thanks again, Tom - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-24 Thread Thomas Kelly
area?" I was uneasy with the BD presentation when I left the biofuels forum . Finding out that the presenter was linked to petro-oil, hasn't helped. Tom - Original Message - From: "Joe Street" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-24 Thread Joe Street
I think you said it Tom; The money. With all those years in the petroleum industry could he still be benefiting from that industry somehow? Possible? Running 5 or 10% BD means still selling 90 to 95% of the petroleum.. Joe Thomas Kelly wrote: Snip > Somehow I know I should be follo

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Bob Molloy
that 2% or 5% blends, of low quality BD, will not cause harm to engines. Tom - Original Message - From: Bob Molloy To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Appal Energy
anks, > Tom > >- Original Message - >From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: >Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:43 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry > > > > >>T

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Thomas Kelly
Bob Molloy To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry Hi Thomas,    You may have missed this item posted recently. It concerned a New Zealand company formed to

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Bob Molloy
From: Thomas Kelly To: biofuel Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:53 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry I attended a public forum on Biofuels a while back. One of the speakers, the head of a biodiesel co-op, had me perplexed by his repeated

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Thomas Kelly
Could you explain these two points? Thanks, Tom - Original Message - From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 9:43 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and th

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-23 Thread Appal Energy
Thomas, Why? You asked... 1) There's greater profit in blending biodiesel rather than selling straight. 2) Scrap all the misinformation about engine problems at higher blends. 3) Also scrap his misinformation about emissions benefits tapering off at 10%. They actually do little until after B

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-22 Thread fujee01
In my opinion, that until the petroleum industry finds a way for them to regulate (control) biodiesel, they will use all at their disposal to keep the general public in the dark about the whole truth.Thomas Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I attended a public forum on Biofuels a while b

[Biofuel] Biodiesel and the Petroleum Industry

2006-07-22 Thread Thomas Kelly
I attended a public forum on Biofuels a while back. One of the speakers, the head of a biodiesel co-op, had me perplexed by his repeated assertion that biodiesel can be used in 2, 5%, " even 10% or 20% blends", but above these levels engine problems and gelling can occur. He had graphs