Hi Guys
Check out this web site - this is something like what I'd like to set
up in the Philippines - a coop of course.
Best regards,
Mon
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http://www.biofuels.coop/coop.shtml
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Piedmont Biofuels
CO-OP
Piedmont Biofuels is a worker and member owned cooperative. Our
Hi Ken, that sounds exciting and of course we will be rooting for your
success. Unfortunately yahoo supresses the full email addresses of
posters, but I will cross-post your message to Gerardo. Also you might
think of connecting with the coconut protocol group where he posts.
I've also been
Mon,
You got the same problem with a Phil. Coconut Authority manager here in
Zamboanga City. He has been into coco-diesel for about 15 years
now, and he cannot go into commercial production due to the DOE
requirements. The tests are expensive.
We were in a meeting with DOST-PCIERD requesting
Louie,
You know once you start thinking about commercial production you
will find all sorts of hurdles and blocks put in your way by big
business and BIG Oil stooges in government. The idea is to discourage
anyone who tries to think independently and make him toe the line, or
tax it to death so
can put something together.
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Louie,
You know once you start thinking about commercial production you
Hi Louie, good question, and glad to hear that you and I may be
thinking along the same lines. I guess I will start with my own money
initially, and try to get some friends to invest as well. Bear in
mind that I don't plan to start a big operation - just a cottage
industry sized plant. I'm not
Mon,
That's him, Gerardo Santos. The PCA manager I was talking about.
Louie
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Hello Mike and Chris, thanks for the input.
Yes, Mike, that is the idea I am trying to conceptualize- similar to
the US Coops, it seems to me that if an organized group of
well-intentioned people got together and decided to make biodiesel or
ethanol for their own consumption, then no one should
On 10/6/05, Ramon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
it seems to me that if an organized group ofwell-intentioned people got together and decided to make biodiesel orethanol for their own consumption Myrole would then be focused on (a) teaching them the technology
-technology transfer - and (b) perhaps
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Hi All,
Thanks for the replies... The reason why I'm a little bit hesitant
is well mainly because the info drive here in Manila
Hi Mon,
The pamphlet doesnt say directly that coops are not
allowed to make biodiesel. Here are excerpts from the pamphlet. I trust you can
read tagalog?
Regards,
Chris
Anong konkretong hakbang ng pamahalaan upang mapalaganag
ang paggamit nito? (Biodiesel)
Dahil sa mga nakitang
Hi Mon,
The pamphlet doesnt say directly that coops are not
allowed to make biodiesel. Here are excerpts from the pamphlet. I trust you can
read tagalog?
Regards,
Chris
Anong konkretong hakbang ng pamahalaan upang mapalaganag
ang paggamit nito? (Biodiesel)
Dahil sa mga nakitang
, 2005 1:25 PMTo:
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Hi All,
Thanks for the replies... The reason why I'm a little bit hesitant is well mainly because the info drive here in Manila is not that good and second some unscrupulous business men before
Tell that to our gov as they are clueless or worse.
Regards
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hi to alli'm just wondering how the gov. approved to use the the biofuels
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Hi All,
Thanks for the replies... The reason why I'm a little bit hesitant is
well mainly because the info
Title: RE: [Biofuel] E10 experience here in Manila
Ive been reading up on this for past 3 years or so and its like this. There have been local studies on biodiesel for years. The government only took notice when they saw they could boost coconut industry (and their pockets). So
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hi to all
i'm just wondering how the gov. approved to use the the biofuels without
setting up
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here in Manila
Hi All,
Thanks for the replies... The reason why I'm a little
bit hesitant is well mainly because the info drive here in Manila is not that
good and second some unscrupulous business men before are selling
Of *Patrick
Anthony Opaco
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*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] E10 experience here in Manila
Hi All,
Thanks for the replies... The reason why I'm a little bit hesitant is
well mainly because the info drive here in Manila
n that, but I don't think mine went over that well, it allowed vitamins and minerals in the definition.
Leon
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From: Chris Tan
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: 9/23/05 11:09:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] E10 experience here in Manila
Hi Patrick,
ItÂ’s not
Huh? What do you think the S in ISO stands for?
http://www.iso.org/iso/en/ISOOnline.frontpage
Leon Hulett wrote:
Chris and Patrick,
I agree on your standards issue, the government can't make a standard.
One time I searched and searched for the government's definition of
standard. I
.
Leon
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From: Chris Tan
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: 9/23/05 11:09:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] E10 experience here in Manila
Hi Patrick,
It's not that the government is not strict about standards. The government
doesn't have a standard
Sorry guys but I'm referring to the Philippine DoE.
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Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:10 AM
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I don't know
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] E10 experience here in Manila
I don't know how much I would trust the DOE for certain things
anyway... I trust that their historical data on energy is accurate,
but the predictions, not so much. Have you looked at what they
project the price of a barrel of oil to be in 15
to see if it exists now. Maybe this is just trivia at this point.
Thanks for your question though.
Leon
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From: John Hayes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: 9/23/05 1:01:41 PM
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Huh? What do you think
ok issue with the definition of "food" as well and wrote upsomething
on that, but I don't think mine went over that well, it allowed vitaminsand minerals in the definition. Leon - Original Message - From: Chris Tan To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: 9/23/05 11:09:04 PM Sub
Hi All,
Thanks for the replies... The reason why I'm a little bit hesitant is well mainly because the info drive here in Manila is not that good and second some unscrupulous business men before are selling unleaded gas (prior to E10) that has water in it. That's a real bummer but now they are at
Finally, I've already tried using E10. I'm a little bit hesitant using iton my5 month old carso I tried it first in my old 1990 Nissan California (carbuerator type) car. So far so good, is all I can say right now. One thing that I noticed (that is different from the conventional unleaded fuel) is
Patrick Anthony Opaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finally, I've already tried using E10. I'm a little bit hesitant using it on
my 5 month old car so I tried it first in my old 1990 Nissan California
(carbuerator type) car. So far so good, is all I can say right now. One
thing that I noticed
Here in Colorado, at least half the gas stations carry only E10
instead of regular gas in the wintertime. Because of the high
altitude, and our smog problems, they put it in to try to oxygenate
the gas and encourage cleaner combustion. I know people who avoid the
stations with E10 and only buy
Hello Patrick,
Pardon my ignorance - what is E10? Is this a 10% Ethanol blend? also is such a blend commercially available in Manila? or are you mixing your own?
Regards,
Mon
On 9/21/05, Patrick Anthony Opaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Finally, I've already tried using E10. I'm a little bit
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