Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-19 Thread Jay Wetzel
You have not offended me. You articulate well and make good sense. The previous message (before yours) just made my point. Too many of us are blinded by hate. We will win more to this cause with positive attitudes. We will have no success bullying others into this cause. ASSuming we know

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-19 Thread Keith Addison
-04-18 From: Hakan Falk Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing Here's the letter to Kazman: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/19993/ Information Archive at NNYTech Date: 2003-01-09 From: Hakan Falk Subject: [biofuel] Open letter to Mr. Sam Kazman about SUV I'm sure you know

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-19 Thread Keith Addison
http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/15482/ Information Archive at NNYTech It says: Americans would be quite happy to pay $5 a gallon if that gallon took them three times as far. I wonder if that's true, maybe the mere numbers have a magic all their own regardless of how far it takes you.

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-19 Thread Hakan Falk
Jay, I think you got it wrong, why should any one hate someone, because he drive a SUV. At the same time, it is not any reasons to accept baseless arguments and reasoning for why he drive a SUV. Why do you mix in Hitler in this, isn't that a bit over the edge? By the way, one of the good things

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-19 Thread Hakan Falk
Sorry Jay, it should have been For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge and those females were exported to Australia and America. The more hardened criminals went to Australia and the unwanted petty thiefs, politicians etc. went to the American colony. Both countries finally became samples of

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-19 Thread MH
UNITED WE STAND -- The saudi monarchv, the bin laden family, nigeria's military, columbia's paramilitaries and russian organized crime all thank you for your support! CARtoon http://www.nosuv.org/images/drivingsupport.gif ___ Biofuel mailing

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-19 Thread J.L.Burney
- From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing UNITED WE STAND -- The saudi monarchv, the bin laden family, nigeria's military, columbia's paramilitaries and russian organized crime all thank you

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-18 Thread Craig Harris
Boy has Ford botched up the once pinnacle of safety Volvo! - Original Message - From: J.L.Burneymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing thats a very

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-18 Thread John Hayes
There was a table in the article showing the number of occupant deaths per 100,000 vehicles sold. The lowest? Toyota Camry and VW Jetta. The highest, Ford F-150 if I remember correctly. Among the highest was also the Explorer, Chevy Tahoe, etc. The moral of the story? Avoiding an

RE: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-18 Thread Tom Irwin
? I recall 100,000 or so inhabitants? Tom (cityboy turned countryboy) -Original Message- From: Kirk McLoren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17/04/05 19:49 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing My daughter was in an Olds Cutlass Supreme, a 1975 tank. She was rearended

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-18 Thread Appal Energy
. - Original Message - From: Brian To: Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing A while back, someone (Keith) posted an article dealing with the difference between ability to avoid an accident and the ability to survive an accident. A look

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-18 Thread Hakan Falk
Did an open letter to Sam Kazman about SUVs and have some interesting links that can be followed up, http://energysavingnow.com/biofuels/kazman.shtml Read the follow up answers also. It is even more interesting statistic, if you look further in the links I referenced. I had it with

RE: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-18 Thread Michael Redler
(cityboy turned countryboy) -Original Message- From: Kirk McLoren To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17/04/05 19:49 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing My daughter was in an Olds Cutlass Supreme, a 1975 tank. She was rearended by an oxygen thief who admitted to the highway patrol

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-17 Thread J.L.Burney
- Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing Jay, because i can drive like a reasonable adult and i know the limits of my SUV. That's what everyone says

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-17 Thread Brian
PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 10:53 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing Jay, because

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-17 Thread J.L.Burney
- From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing A while back, someone (Keith) posted an article dealing with the difference between ability to avoid an accident and the ability to survive an accident

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-17 Thread Kirk McLoren
- From: Brian To: Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2005 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing A while back, someone (Keith) posted an article dealing with the difference between ability to avoid an accident and the ability to survive an accident. A look at the archives should

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread Appal Energy
. But that's all together another argument. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Jay Wetzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 4:02 PM Subject: Fwd: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing Why do so many so called environmentalist label

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread Craig Harris
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing Evil? Who said evil? Careless. Unaware. Insensitive. Self-centered. Un-informed. Selfish. Uh-huh. And probably another two dozen similar adjectives. My full size diesel Chevy 4x4 trucks

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread Ken Dunn
With all due respect, there just isn't any indication that SUVs are any safer than small cars. Also, a lot of people are not very good at driving them. I believe that makes them even less safe. Furthermore, an SUV or large truck only provides the driver a greater chance of harming

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread Appal Energy
: Thursday, April 14, 2005 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing Well I drive a 84 Ford F250 dually with 83,000 miles and I make my own biodiesel! Now who is more consevative a guy that drives 15,000 miles per year in a hybrid or me? - Original Message - From: Appal

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread J.L.Burney
- Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing Snip. I know my family is much safer in my 3/4 ton trucks, than my Geo Metro! Because I see

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread Michael Redler
Harris To: Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing Snip. I know my family is much safer in my 3/4 ton trucks, than my Geo Metro! Because I see the accidents first hand, frequently. I can safely say THE BIG VEHICLE ALWAYS WINS! Again

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread Appal Energy
to the hospital before he or she bled to death? Let me guess..., there's an override on it. :-) Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Craig Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-15 Thread MH
Whether we walk, pedal, moped, motorcycle, drive a light duty vehicle such as a car, SUV, pickup or van our chances of survival from a collision with a 100,000 pound semi truck and trailer rig rolling down the road don't seem particularly good and less so at a railroad crossing.

Re: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-14 Thread William Gargan
consider instead the fact that you might well have been an idiot to buy such a vehicle in the first place that is so true! On 4/13/05, MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: End of cheap oil is a blessing MITCHELL ANDERSON Apr. 13, 2005 Canada http://www.thestar.com Enraged about the high price of

Fwd: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-14 Thread Jay Wetzel
PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing End of cheap oil is a blessing MITCHELL ANDERSON Apr. 13, 2005 Canada http://www.thestar.com Enraged about the high price of gas? A trip to the corner store might provide a much-needed reality check to the indignation over

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-14 Thread Michael Redler
I thought you might get a chuckle out of this... This gasoline price sign was seen in Seymour, Conn., Tuesday, April 12, 2005. Gasoline prices have risen sharply in the last few weeks throughout the country. (AP Photo/Bob Child)

Re: Fwd: [Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-14 Thread Ray J
someone driving some big a$$ truck the world would be a safer place if as many people didn't drive a truck that has a bumper that lines up with the heads of the people in the cars... I see s many people drive big trucks, and they have no good reason to... 20 years ago a person was

[Biofuel] End of cheap oil is a blessing

2005-04-13 Thread MH
End of cheap oil is a blessing MITCHELL ANDERSON Apr. 13, 2005 Canada http://www.thestar.com Enraged about the high price of gas? A trip to the corner store might provide a much-needed reality check to the indignation over excessive fuel costs. Have a quick look at what you can buy