Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-09 Thread Sarath Guttikunda
While on the topic.. Are there any reports on emissions from E85/B20 vehicles - CO, CO2, PM10/PM2.5? Sarath On 2/3/06, Andrew Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would welcome correct where due if I'm wrong, but vehicles currentlybeing marketed (barring FFVs) aren't fully suited to either

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-05 Thread Purbo J. Wignjosajono
I competely agree to your closing statements. :-)) PJW - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel One thing to remember, Anna

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-04 Thread Andres Secco
cicles and Biodiesel do not have the flash point enough for a low compression engine. - Original Message - From: Andrew Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel I would welcome

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-04 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Part of the reason is probably because diesels in the US have a reputation of being slow, noisy, and dirty. Most people in the US haven't seen a diesel car since the early 80's, and assume that the technology is the same as 20 years ago (or worse yet, remember the famed 5.7L GM diesel engine

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-04 Thread Logan Vilas
Andrew wrote: Ethanol and Biodiesel are totally different substances and have completely different applications. Biodiesel works in engines with a compression ratio over 50, like most of diesel engines. Explossion in the engine occurs because a temperature/pressure ratio (the diesel cicle).

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-04 Thread aircooledmail-biofuel
One thing to remember, Anna. Ethanol has been used at the pump for over 20 years, primarily in a blend. There are several states which mandate it's use in a blend seasonally, for pollution abatement. The "oxygenated" fuels. So public familiarity is built in. The use of spark-ignited combustion in

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-04 Thread Andres Secco
50:1 I thought is was 20:1 sorry for the confussion. - Original Message - From: Andres Secco [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 7:58 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel Andrew, Ethanol and Biodiesel are totally different

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-04 Thread aircooledmail-biofuel
Hello All, 1st time post here! Excuse my interruption, but I'm reasonably certain there are no diesel engines achieving 50 to 1 compression ratios. The heat generated by such compression would probably melt, if not burn, conventional cast iron cylinders liners and cylinder heads, as well as

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-04 Thread lres1
quality. This gave the diesel tractor a greater advantage as down time was reduced. Doug - Original Message - From: Logan Vilas To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 2:28 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel ***

[Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-03 Thread anna b
I am curious as to why ethynol has dominated the recent discussion in main stream media of alternative fuels. The way I see it biodiesel is already available as are diesel cars to use it. Does anyone know of any studies that compare the cost and environmental impacts of ethynol vs biodiesel?

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-03 Thread Tom Irwin
Greetings Anna and All, I believe ethanol dominates the main stream media because of big companies like ADM which stand to benefit from it. From a more environmental standpointethanol can be made from diverse feedstocks like cellulose, starch, and sugar. It can be used in automobiles with

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-03 Thread Andrew Netherton
I would welcome correct where due if I'm wrong, but vehicles currently being marketed (barring FFVs) aren't fully suited to either ethanol or biodiesel. With ethanol, there are the dual issues of not enough compression in a standard gas engine to make the most of ethanol, and corrossion issues in

Re: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel

2006-02-03 Thread Andrew Secco
: anna b [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:58 PM Subject: [Biofuel] Ethynol vs Biodiesel I am curious as to why ethynol has dominated the recent discussion in main stream media of alternative fuels. The way I see it biodiesel is already available