Hi Robert
Keith Addison wrote:
(The power of Pro-Israel . . .)
I know how powerful it is (though I wouldn't call it sentiment).
You don't have to be living in the US to have direct experience of
it. I've also been posting messages here on the waning of it's
influence, and the rise of opposition
Keith Addison wrote:
(Advocating mushroom clouds)
:-(
Who knows, if they use enough nukes they might even get to make the
world flat again (not that it was ever any other way of course).
The problem with intransigence is that desperately clinging to an
untenable position seems
: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
Friedrich Friesinger wrote:
Roberto,
And still there is an other small
difference,Niagra-falls is not besieged
and more so not for 60 Years and no US American
stole the Land of the
Niagrans
I think the Mohawks might disagree
fox mulder wrote:
What an evil thought,justifying the genocide in Gaza
by extropolating it to the wild mid-west of America.
I don't think anyone here is doing that. Also, the Niagara region
is along New York's border with Ontario. Most people consider the
mid-west to begin on the
Hi Robert
Keith Addison wrote:
snip
When asked if he would say the same in Israel today,
Obama said, I think that's a basic principle of any country is that
they've got to protect their citizens. (Obama: Gitmo Likely Won't
Close in First 100 Days ABC News)
There we go! So much for
Hi again Robert
snip
Is there a way out of this that doesn't involve mushroom clouds? I
hope so, but I don't see it!
Same answer IMHO as Chomsky's answer to the other question: It's up to you.
With the American political establishment firmly behind Israel's
attack, and Obama's foreign
... Israel can't continue its military action without at least a
tacit green light from Washington. Washington can give that green
light only as long as the American public raises no serious
objection. The public here isn't likely to object as long as the
basic plotline of Middle East news
Keith,
I just want to add to your answers.
Nobody does even remotely associate Christ with Israel, who
clearly denies that he ever existed as the sun of God. In this
case the Muslims are closer to the Christians than the Jews.
It is not that important, because all religions condemns what
has
Keith Addison wrote:
Hi again Robert
snip
With the American political establishment firmly behind Israel's
attack, and Obama's foreign policy team heavily weighted with
pro-Israel insiders like Dennis Ross and Hillary Clinton, any efforts
to hold Israel accountable in the United States
Hello Robert
Keith Addison wrote:
Hi again Robert
snip
With the American political establishment firmly behind Israel's
attack, and Obama's foreign policy team heavily weighted with
pro-Israel insiders like Dennis Ross and Hillary Clinton, any efforts
to hold Israel accountable in the
Keith Addison wrote:
(The power of Pro-Israel . . .)
I know how powerful it is (though I wouldn't call it sentiment).
You don't have to be living in the US to have direct experience of
it. I've also been posting messages here on the waning of it's
influence, and the rise of opposition to it,
Also:
The First Mistake:
Barack Obama's Silence on Gaza
By Ru Freeman
Seven years ago, another American president took the sympathy of the
world and transformed it into hatred. Just two months ago, Barack
Obama won it back on the backs of ordinary Americans. Today he stands
on the brink of
http://www.progressive.org/mag/avnery011109.html
Israel Is Losing This War
BY URI AVNERY, JANUARY 11, 2009
NEARLY SEVENTY YEARS ago, in the course of World War II, a heinous
crime was committed in the city of Leningrad. For more than a
thousand days, a gang of extremists called the Red Army
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21739.htm
The Generous Offer Update:
Two Years of Starvation Followed by Fire-bombing
By Mike Whitney
January 13, 2009 Information Clearinghouse -- Apart from the
slaughter of 900 Palestinians and the vast destruction from 14 days
of aerial
Keith Addison wrote:
snip
When asked if he would say the same in Israel today,
Obama said, I think that's a basic principle of any country is that
they've got to protect their citizens. (Obama: Gitmo Likely Won't
Close in First 100 Days ABC News)
There we go! So much for change!
Hi Robert, Friedrich
Friedrich Friesinger wrote:
Roberto,
And still there is an other small difference,Niagra-falls is not besieged
and more so not for 60 Years and no US American stole the Land of the
Niagrans
I think the Mohawks might disagree with that . . .
There is a miserable
. And with robots you
can always blame the computer.
The mind boggles.
Bob.
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
Considering
the people might be getting the government we deserve, but just be glad we're
not getting the government we pay for... My mother likes to say: The people
get the government they deserve. But I keep wondering what I've done to
deserve THIS! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long
Thank you, Keith.
You're welcome Bob.
I was unaware of the natural gas angle.
So was I. Not that it explains this savagery, as if anything could,
but it helps - energy, money, ah.
How can anyone watching Gaza burn escape the bitter realization that
history repeats itself? Many have compared
Hi Robert
Keith Addison wrote:
Noting that Israel was bent on halting Hamas rocket fire into its
southern towns, Reid said: I ask any of my colleagues to imagine
that happening here in the United States. Rockets and mortars coming
from Toronto in Canada, into Buffalo New York. How would we as a
Considering current mayhem in the world and where most of it stems
from, whether officially or via weapons supplies and/or support and
encouragement, would one say this is the road to worldwide peace, as
this writer so blithely proclaims? I don't think it would take a lot
of fingers to count
Friedrich Friesinger wrote:
Roberto,
And still there is an other small difference,Niagra-falls is not besieged
and more so not for 60 Years and no US American stole the Land of the
Niagrans
I think the Mohawks might disagree with that . . .
There is a miserable failure to the
Keith Addison wrote:
( I wonder if these people are actually THINKING!)
If they are it must be more of a gastric process than cerebral, once
you get down to the bowels of it, so to speak.
Ha! THAT'S funny!
(The more things change . . . )
It's what Chomsky said about the election
??? (www:hiddenfromhistory.org)
Fritz
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robert and Benita
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 9:06 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
Friedrich Friesinger wrote:
Roberto
Keith Addison wrote:
Noting that Israel was bent on halting Hamas rocket fire into its
southern towns, Reid said: I ask any of my colleagues to imagine
that happening here in the United States. Rockets and mortars coming
from Toronto in Canada, into Buffalo New York. How would we as a
country
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
Keith Addison wrote:
Noting that Israel was bent on halting Hamas rocket fire into its
southern towns, Reid said: I ask any of my colleagues to imagine
that happening here in the United States. Rockets and mortars
Thank you, Keith. I was unaware of the natural gas angle. It also seems the
New York Times and the Toronto Sun are finally facing up to reality. See
below.
Israel's fait accompli in Gaza
By Eric S. Margolis
There are two completely different versions of what is currently happening
in Gaza.
In
Hi all,
I hope there is a speck of humanity in some of us.
Your president approves it on TV and blames the whole
genocide on Hamas that has no military identity. Hamas
is only a political organisation that was elected by
the people of the land.
Ask the ordinary israelies. They would tell you that
]
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fox mulder
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2009 2:43 a.m.
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
Hi all,
I hope there is a speck of humanity in some of us.
Your president approves it on TV and blames the whole
genocide
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21670.htm
Gaza Catastrophe: Resource Conflict?
Natural Gas, Palestinian Elections, and Israel's Subversion of the
'Peace Process'
By Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed
January 07, 2009 Information Clearinghouse -- Israel claims it is
fighting in Gaza to
Unprecedented Numbers of Americans Question Israel's Actions in Gaza
By Max Blumenthal, Huffington Post
Posted on January 6, 2009
http://www.alternet.org/story/117568/
Have Bush and the Neocons Ruined it for the Israelis?
By Juan Cole
January 06, 2009 Information Clearinghouse
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
bmolloy wrote:
Keith,
I realise our main focus is biofuel but nevertheless I am grieved
that no-one has seen fit to at least comment on the ongoing genocide in
Gaza. Are we now one-eyed, or worse, eyeless
Hi Bob
Keith,
I realise our main focus is biofuel but nevertheless I am grieved
that no-one has seen fit to at least comment on the ongoing genocide in
Gaza.
Uh, we just did...
It's happened so many times before, but instead of becoming
indifferent to it it seems the outrage has
2009 20:17:08 +0900
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Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
Hello Ivan and all
I think the deal for the Palestinians is shitty to say the least, but that
is how live goes
But on every part of the world, when you poke a finger
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
Hello Ivan and all
I think the deal for the Palestinians is shitty to say the
least, but that
is how live goes
But on every part of the world, when you poke a finger in somebody, much
bigger than you, right
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Cópia:
Data: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 01:09:11 +0900
Assunto: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
I said they have a shity hand so are the Saharawis with UN
resolution and all, the Dafurians and they have much more deaths,
Tibetans and Weigers in Shinjian, and on and on so yes, poor
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Cópia:
Data: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 01:09:11 +0900
Assunto: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
I said they have a shity hand so are the Saharawis with UN
resolution and all, the Dafurians and they have much more deaths,
Tibetans and Weigers in Shinjian, and on and on so yes, poor
them
That's as much arguing as I'll be doing over Gaza. I'll discuss it,
but I don't have the time to waste arguing with people who, whether
through prejudice genuine or implanted or sheer neglect, can't be
bothered to get their facts right first. Yes, the media spin is
severe (eg
2009 2:02 a.m.
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Eyeless in Gaza
I said they have a shity hand so are the Saharawis with UN resolution and
all, the Dafurians and they have much more deaths, Tibetans and Weigers in
Shinjian, and on and on so yes, poor them
Keith,
I realise our main focus is biofuel but nevertheless I am grieved
that no-one has seen fit to at least comment on the ongoing genocide in
Gaza. Are we now one-eyed, or worse, eyeless?
Regards,
Bob.
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bmolloy wrote:
Keith,
I realise our main focus is biofuel but nevertheless I am grieved
that no-one has seen fit to at least comment on the ongoing genocide in
Gaza. Are we now one-eyed, or worse, eyeless?
No. You're not the only one who is grieving over this.
I get a
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Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:39 AM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org
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bmolloy wrote:
Keith,
I realise our main focus is biofuel but nevertheless I am grieved
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