g.
Regards
Keith
It would be a shame to squander it on those things that yield no fruit..
Todd Swearingen
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can't seem to find
it at the moment.
Todd Swearingen
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e should all be so lucky as to have such friends.
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Thanks Todd. Nice reply
P.
What is it that the Buddhist monk said? "It's not often a person gets
the
chance to be a human. It's a shame to waste it." Or something rather
close
to that.
We're only given so much time and one existance to expend it. It would
be a
shame to squander it on those t
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No problem Todd.
I gotcha, loud and clear. Even if Ken was 100% correct, I would
have wor
at.
Not!
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7Dear Appal,
I must apologi
and one existance to
> expend it. It would be a
> shame to squander it on those things that yield no
> fruit..
>
> Todd Swearingen
>
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No problem Todd.
I gotcha, loud and clear
Think global warming's bad? Wait till you see global cooling.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm
Todd Swearingen
Good piece by Thom Hartmann, as usual.
This below is part of a previous discussion here in 2003, between me
and MM, which you might find interesting:
Interes
edler"
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> Ken is right.
>
> The statement
>
> "'colder than normal' means that someone else has a 'hotter than n
rom: "Michael Redler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Ken is right.
The statement
"'colder than normal' means t
obal warming could all too
likely be global cooling.
Todd Swearingen
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Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:08 AM
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>
> --- Appal Energ
Ken is right.
The statement
"'colder than normal' means that someone else has a 'hotter than normal'."
could only be true if the same amount of energy reaches the Earth's surface
every day. Changes in the ozone layer changes the amount of energy reaching the
Earths surface.
The greenhou
rom: "Ken Riznyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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--- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Considering the fact
--- Appal Energy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Considering the fact that the sun only radiates so
> much heat per minute,
> hour, day or year, your "colder than normal" means
> that someone else has a
> "hotter than normal."
NOT TRUE
You statement shows that you do not understand the
greenhou
> >rocket lift offs, commercial corporations' agendas which ties into
> >political agendas, etc). When temperatures deviate from the norm
> >(what the heck is that, anyway), depending on the depth of
> >deviation, it can throw the averages off quite a bit. And
> &
, no doubt - works for me :-0)?
Mick
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 14:21:14 -0500
Mick,
Can you feel
If you don't trust statistics done by other people, you could go out
and get the daily average temperatures arounds the world and do the
math yourself.
I did exactly that this week. My friend sent me two hinky graphs that
supposedly showed a warming trend warming trend for the globe but not
I think that I have to disagree with both of you, it is less than 1
degree. The difference between water and ice at 1 atm at 0 degrees C
is 0 degrees.
Andy
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> I believe one degree is the
> difference between water o
iation, it can throw the averages off quite a
> bit. And statistics have been proven to be great avenues of misinformation.
> By the way, who or what was blamed for the end of the ice age (wall
> street, no doubt - works for me :-0)?
>
> Mick
>
> >From: Andrew Cunningha
ocean current is messed up from global warming from greenhouse gases...
and this causes totally wird weather kinda like 4 hurricanes in a
month in Florida this year... well probbly not..
The time span in the movie was a little unrealistic...normal to ice age
in a few days..
It could ma
Considering the fact that the sun only radiates so much heat per minute,
hour, day or year, your "colder than normal" means that someone else has a
"hotter than normal." And due to the fact that neither "hotter than normal"
and "colder than normal" are exactly quantitative in their expression,
tudes, and what is the natural variation?
--Randall
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Le
en to be great avenues of misinformation.
By the way, who or what was blamed for the end of the ice age (wall
street, no doubt - works for me :-0)?
Mick
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I believe one degree is the
difference between water or ice.
Nope. One degre is the difference between 1 degree and 0 degree
water. The difference between the solid and liquid state of matter
is several times bigger. Ice has a lot more energy trapped inside
then just the deltaT of 1.
But globa
I believe one degree is the
difference between water or ice.
> Mick,
> Can you feel the difference of 1 degree increase on average?
> Andy
> > As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a hard
> > time swallowing the "global warming" concept.
> > Mick
SECOND TERM:
global cooling.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm
Todd Swearingen
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As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a
hard
time swallowing the "global warming"
.
>
> Mick
>
> >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >Leading Climate Expert
> >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005
As I sit here freezing, in temperatures colder than normal, I have a
hard time swallowing the "global warming" concept.
In that case, NASA has a nice little page called "If There's Global
Warming, Why Am I Freezing My Buns Off?" that you should read. You can
find it here.
http://www.giss.n
time swallowing the "global warming" concept.
Mick
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 03:2
Published on Sunday, January 23, 2005 by the lndependent/UK
Global Warming Approaching Point of No Return, Warns Leading Climate Expert
by Geoffrey Lean
Global warning has already hit the danger point that international
attempts to curb it are designed to avoid, according to the world's
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