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From: Alt.EnergyNetwork
To:
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 19:12
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think that you could power the
electrolizer with PV or a wind
generator
regards
tallex
: Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
Sent: 28 Apr 2005 00:18:39
Hi Hakan,
Let's move on to another thread, shall we? We have much to talk about.
Peace,
Mike
Hakan Falk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mike,
Are you trying to shift my
.
Why bother?
It is more efficient to use the energy in another
manor.
Greg H.
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From: Alt.EnergyNetwork
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 19:12
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think
That is entirely correct.
It's a feel good solution.
Greg H.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 11:48
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
Hi Greg,
You are right. When one starts thinking
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think that you could power the
electrolizer with PV or a wind
generator
regards
tallex
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making H2 just to run
the fireplace for a few
of hrs.
Why bother?
It is more efficient to use the energy in another
manor.
Greg H.
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From: Alt.EnergyNetwork
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 19:12
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I
Point taken.
Mike
--- robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Redler wrote:
I don't see conflicting opinions. I just see
different motives.
Agreed; H2 via electrolysis is not efficient by
most comparisons. But, since when is a fireplace
anyone's first choice for an
efficient to use the energy in another
manor.
Greg H.
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From: Alt.EnergyNetwork
To:
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 19:12
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think that you could power the
electrolizer with PV or a wind
generator
regards
Who is they?
Where was this being done?
Without those trivial little details, your message does little to
increase the signal to noise ratio on the list.
jh
JD2005 wrote:
Hi Bob;
There's not anything much more to add only that they were putting mildly
radioactive material in washing
um, whatever floats your boat Bob.
We've been talking about the efficiency/effectiveness
of H2 in a fireplace
me too
, the value of a fireplace as an
efficient source of heat
me too
and power sources for
electrolysis.
me too. It seems a little silly to use electricity, whatever the
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From: Alt.EnergyNetwork
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 19:12
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think that you could power the
electrolizer with PV or a wind
generator
regards
tallex
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Bob,
me too?
Then why are you quoting me in your response instead of using your own words?
Because you thought you'd be clever by suggesting we Instead gather around a
nice red nichrome wire.
...not funny of clever.
You and Hakan -- what's with you guys?
Mike
bob allen [EMAIL
And you could quadruple the space heat by using such high quality energy as the
electrolyzer uses to run a heat pump. Using electricity even as resistance heat
is wasteful. To halve it in an electrolyzer compounds the problem. Commerce is
not the test. We have all seen foolish products that
I started out with a simple statement about fireplaces and how they aren't the
first choice for heating one's home. That is to say that I don't care what
people use as a fireplace. Wood, gas, HYDROGEN; The point that I was trying
to make is that when it comes to a fireplace, I'm not sure how
28, 2005 00:38
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
Hi Bob;
There's not anything much more to add only that they were putting mildly
radioactive material in washing powder to make the laundry dry more
quickly.:-)
JD2005
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From: bob allen
whoa
for a few
of hrs.
Why bother?
It is more efficient to use the energy in another
manor.
Greg H.
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Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 19:12
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think
I think we've dealt with this issue.
Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada
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What were they adding?
Who is they?
Where was this being done?
Without those trivial little details, your message does little to
increase the signal to noise ratio on the list.
jh
What is you basis for the comment?
What we want to know, is what proof do you have for making it?We
Hi Bob;
There's not anything much more to add only that they were putting mildly
radioactive material in washing powder to make the laundry dry more
quickly.:-)
JD2005
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From: bob allen
whoa doggies, could you elaborate on this a little?
JD2005 wrote:
I do not
I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind generator
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From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And if you dumped the power into a resistor (heater) you would get twice as
much heat as the fireplace.
Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind generator
regards
tallex
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recover the lost heat, but still there have to be better ways to provide
space heat.
It would be just as efficient and a lot cheaper to run a bare nichrome
wire for heat.
Alt.EnergyNetwork wrote:
I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind generator
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From: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
Sent: 26 Apr 2005 17:29:42
You still run into H2 storage issues.
You
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Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind
generator
regards
tallex
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JD2005 wrote:
I do not agree with the utilisation of water to get wasser stoff (hydrogen)
but it is possible to dissociate water with radioactive material such as
they are putting in washing power these days to make laundry dry more
quickly.
JD2005
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From: bob
: Greg Harbican [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
Sent: 26 Apr 2005 17:29:42
You still run into H2 storage issues.
You would have to spend days making H2 just to run the fireplace for a few
of hrs.
Why bother?
It is more efficient to use the energy
I understand that hydrogen flames are pale, hard to see, and emit much
less radiative heat than flames from the combustion of carbon and its
compounds. I don't think a hydrogen fireplace would satisfy those who
wanted a fireplace for the colour and play of its flames and the
radiated heat. In a
I don't see conflicting opinions. I just see different motives.
Agreed; H2 via electrolysis is not efficient by most comparisons. But, since when is a fireplace anyone's first choice for an efficient means of heating a home? Yet millions of people (including myself and other environmentally
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Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind
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regards
tallex
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in another manor.
Greg H.
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From: Alt.EnergyNetwork
To:
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 19:12
Subject: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place
I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind
generator
regards
tallex
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I do not agree with the utilisation of water to get wasser stoff (hydrogen)
but it is possible to dissociate water with radioactive material such as
they are putting in washing power these days to make laundry dry more
quickly.
JD2005
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From: bob allen
I guess if you
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