Re: [biofuel] Expert Pans Ethanol

2003-12-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Alan >Keith Addison wrote: > > SASKATOON, Sask.-"Ethanol production from corn is a > > fossil-energy-losing proposition" is the conclusion of Professor Tad > > Patzek who is a petroleum and chemical engineer at University of > > California, Berkeley. > >That "petroleum and chemical engineer" p

Re: [biofuel] Expert Pans Ethanol

2003-12-03 Thread esbuck
In a message dated 12/3/2003 2:28:58 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sounds like he's been reading Pimento's stuff. The question is: is he right? The fact that he's a chemical engineer does not, in itself, suggest that he's wrong, does it? [Non-text portions of this messag

Re: [biofuel] Expert Pans Ethanol

2003-12-03 Thread Martin Klingensmith
Alan Petrillo wrote: >>"We have: >>- Burned more fossil fuels than the energy content of the ethanol from corn; >>- Degraded and eroded soil on millions of acres; >>- Polluted surface and groundwater with nitrates, herbicides, >>pesticides, and ethanol waste; >>- Polluted air with CO, NOx , SO2

Re: [biofuel] Expert Pans Ethanol

2003-12-03 Thread Alan Petrillo
Keith Addison wrote: > SASKATOON, Sask.-"Ethanol production from corn is a > fossil-energy-losing proposition" is the conclusion of Professor Tad > Patzek who is a petroleum and chemical engineer at University of > California, Berkeley. That "petroleum and chemical engineer" part ought to tel

[biofuel] Expert Pans Ethanol

2003-12-01 Thread Keith Addison
Patzek's quite right about the large amounts of fossil-fuels used in the production of maize and wheat - industrialized monocrops of maize and wheat, that is. But it says long-term sustainability is one of his research interests, so he ought to know that industrialized monocrops aren't the onl