Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy and my bid for the presidency.

2003-06-28 Thread murdoch
I think Pimentel is not important here, and I did not have him in mind. To my mind what is important is the next tier of researchers who claim that while biofuels may contain added energy, the net gain is not large. I don't have anyone specific in mind, except the recent Berkeley group's

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy and my bid for the presidency.

2003-06-28 Thread Hakan
MM, What we are talking about is not biofuels in general, it is Ethanol production from corn, as I understand it. Hakan At 09:38 AM 6/28/2003 -0700, you wrote: I think Pimentel is not important here, and I did not have him in mind. To my mind what is important is the next tier of

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy and my bid for the presidency.

2003-06-27 Thread Hakan
MM, At 12:25 PM 6/27/2003 -0700, you wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:14:16 +0200, you wrote: MM, I think that it is pretty accepted, some proof would for sure be volcanos and hot springs. I agree with you and many others, that manipulations with the worlds crust, could result in unwanted

Re: [biofuel] Sources of Energy and my bid for the presidency.

2003-06-27 Thread murdoch
Despite the scientists' claims that I've seen that biomass production uses too much energy to be an effective contributor to an energy mix, and that if this energy use is in fossil fuels that the renewable gain is negligible or non-existent, I tend to not believe these claims. The fact is that