On Tue, 17 Sep 2002, Appal Energy wrote:
Actually, if the ethanol is to be used in continued manufacture
it does not have to be denatured. Problem is that there is a
sales transaction between a small guy who looks like a consumer
and a manufacturer, which looks a might suspicious to ATF.
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Subject: Re: [biofuel] source of ethanol
On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Curtis Sakima wrote:
I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but isn't
un-denatured ethanol moonshine/ATF ... uh, you know
.???
Yes. I have
16, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] source of ethanol
On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Ken Provost wrote:
In the US, that would always be taxed as beverage alcohol
(I believe -- maybe there are some exceptions) and would
be prohibitively expensive.
Yeah, I was hoping that people here might know
Todd writes:
In the case of biodiesel, methanol would be the denaturant of
choice.
Unfortunately, no amount of methanol added to ethanol will give a
so-called completely denatured alcohol, because there are various
separation methods that would be too easy. Ethanol denatured with
only
Well here is a small amount of information that The Revenoor CO. can provide
for answers.
First, the cheapest and easiest way to get the proof that you need is to make
it yourself.
Second, the legal way to do this is with an Alcohol Producers Permit from ATF.
Every still that The Revenoor
On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Curtis Sakima wrote:
I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but isn't
un-denatured ethanol moonshine/ATF ... uh, you know
.???
Yes. I have no intention of drinking it, only using it to make biodiesel.
Unfortunately, the fact that I would be using it to make
On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Ken Provost wrote:
In the US, that would always be taxed as beverage alcohol
(I believe -- maybe there are some exceptions) and would
be prohibitively expensive.
Yeah, I was hoping that people here might know some sort of exception
related to making biodiesel. It would
Michael Briggs writes:
Gasoline as a denaturant would ruin it for use in making biodiesel.
Not at all -- I've done it many times and run it successfully in my
Beetle TDI for months on end.
Fuel-grade ethanol is 200 proof (actually 99.5% anhydrous)
grain-derived ethanol, denatured with 2% or
Michael S Briggs wrote:
On Sun, 15 Sep 2002, Ken Provost wrote:
In the US, that would always be taxed as beverage alcohol
(I believe -- maybe there are some exceptions) and would
be prohibitively expensive.
Yeah, I was hoping that people here might know some sort of exception
related to
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Ken Provost wrote:
Gasoline as a denaturant would ruin it for use in making biodiesel.
Not at all -- I've done it many times and run it successfully in my
Beetle TDI for months on end.
Really? Okay, sounds good to me - for some reason, I had some recollection
of being
On Mon, 16 Sep 2002, Ken Provost wrote:
Michael:
You know, if you're really interested in using ethanol to
make biodiesel, you oughta just cough up (once!) the
$40 a pint or $150 a gallon and get some 200 proof stuff
(with tax) to experiment with. Try Aaper in Kentucky, or
Pharmco -- do
Hello,
I'm new to the group, and wanted to start off with a question -
does anyone know of a good source of reasonably priced ethanol for making
biodiesel? It doesn't need to be completely anhydrous (95% would be okay,
I can use dessicants to remove the rest of the water), but it can NOT
I'm certainly no expert on the subject, but isn't
un-denatured ethanol moonshine/ATF ... uh, you know
.???
Curtis
--- Michael S Briggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
..but it can NOT be denatured with gasoline. It would
be okay to be denatured with methanol, but of course
I'd prefer it if it
Michael writes:
does anyone know of a good source of reasonably
priced ethanol for making biodiesel? It doesn't need
to be completely anhydrous (95% would be okay,
I can use dessicants to remove the rest of the water),
but it can NOT be denatured with gasoline. It would be
okay to be denatured
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