Re: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-25 Thread Steven Helen Hobbs
Darren, what a find...a really exciting report. This oil is nothing more than cold pressed and well filtered oil (5um). NO degumming . My understanding of de-centralised oil production in Germany (from German friends) is that it is very simple (KISS principle...Keep It Simple Stupid) and is

Re: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-19 Thread Steven Helen Hobbs
Darren, as per the ACREVO report, 9%. Make sure you use ethanol not methanol. The methanol will break from the emulsion and sit happily in a seperate layer within an hour. Whereas the ethanol will stay in emulsion. I'm not sure about the cetane improver or the peroxide (eg I don't have a

Re: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-19 Thread Steven Helen Hobbs
G'day Keith As far as solid resultsno. Yes as per ACREVO report, 9% ethanol emulsified into the vege oil. I found the fuel excellent and it burned cleaned at the exhaust. Talking to a couple of other fellas, they also have tried it and it worked well, but they did caution that some fuel

Re: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-14 Thread Keith Addison
G'day Steven Did you get any solid results with the ethanol blend - any tests done on the motor or emissions? I presume you were using ACREVO's 9% of 95% ethanol? Good news that you've been having success with crude canola, undegummed. I hope you'll monitor it closely so that the beginnings

RE: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-13 Thread Darren Hill
Steven, Nice to hear some first hand experiences. What ratio was your ethanol/SVO emulsion and what engine is in your Ute? What would be the tax implications for you if you added a cetane improver such as 2-ethyl hexyl nitrate, a suitable fat based nitrate or a suitable peroxide - ditertiary

Re: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-12 Thread Steven Helen Hobbs
G'day all I thought it was time for me to chip in on this one, as this a real focus of interest, and is one of the few ways you can legally use a renewable fuel in Australia without excise obligations. I am a farmer in Australia who own his own (allbeit small) oil expeller (Keller KEK). I

RE: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-11 Thread Darren Hill
Kieth I have recently read a paper PURIFICATION OF COLD PRESSED RAPESEED OIL TO USE AS A FUEL FOR ADAPTED DIESEL ENGINES E. Remmele 1 , B. Widmann 2 12th European Conference on Biomass for Energy, Industry and Climate Protection, 17-21 June 2002, Amsterdam, The Netherlands That

RE: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-11 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Darren snip And that its removal is necessary: It has been demonstrated that the use of crude (gum content c. 2%) or degummed crude (gum content of 1.4%, this study) rapeseed oil leads to performance problems including filter blockages and engine coking. Gums are a major

[biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-09 Thread Darren Hill
Keith, You wrote:- Some studies have found that, others not. Some users have found that too, others not. It also depends on the oil being used, some polymerize much more easily than others. (Biodiesel made from those oils will also polymerise, but not as quickly.) It's something of

Re: [biofuels-biz] Degumming WAS Re: [biofuel] diesel or hybrid? Why not Both!!]

2003-11-09 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Darren Keith, You wrote:- Some studies have found that, others not. Some users have found that too, others not. It also depends on the oil being used, some polymerize much more easily than others. (Biodiesel made from those oils will also polymerise, but not as quickly.) It's