Hallo Folks,
Sunday, 28 November, 2004, 02:38:12, you wrote:
C True, but what I mean is that life struggles to keep order within,
C at least.
C And, since a single individual can't do that forever, we procreate.
C Best regards,
C Christopher
I'm replying to Christopers mail but these
(This may be a bit late.)
I don't know about you guys but here is how I came to the realization that
there is indeed a God. Silly as it may seem, I found God through science.
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Also, nothing else in the universe goes against ENTROPY but living things.
In any spontaneous process,
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Appal Energy wrote:
Cobb County Georgia School Board puts stickers
Interesting. I really don't understand how you rationalize micro
evolution on a daily basis but reject macro evolution over many, many
millenia.
For the same reason why I don't win the lottery every day. Micro
evolution is the expression of phenotype in response to changing
I remember seeing an electron microscope picture of a
virus and thinking the thing had more in common with a
nanobot than something living. Looked very mechanical.
Don't remember which virus but think it was in
Scientific American about 15 years ago.
-Kirk
--- robert luis rabello [EMAIL
to determine your fate. Best
to do it with a solid foundation, or not, your choice.
Luc
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 9:23 AM
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Gabriel,
You are obviously a profound thinker
What?
I have personally conducted experiments, verifiably and reproducibly (as
have countless others) that transform one kind of living thing into
another.
Really? The examples you have cited consist of variations on a theme.
A fruit fly is still a fruit fly. A virus remains a virus.
Robert,
I didn't say that any supposed diety should be subjected to any chemical
tests or an MRI to substantiate existance. All I said was that proof of
existance should be offered. And after several hundred million years,
one would think that proof would be abundant.
Perhaps I've
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Robert,
I didn't say that any supposed diety should be subjected to any
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Robert,
The proof of God's
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It is human nature to believe in A HIGHER BEEN because we all look for a
father or mother figure to cling to.
Um, I am a strong believer of higher beans ... :-) ... red kidney
especially.
And that these beans cling to poles :o).
Yum.
Cheers
Aleks
in this discussion
anyway.)
You hit the nail on the head when you targeted beliefs as the persuasion
to and from difficulty.
Best wishes,
Peggy
Subject: RE: Bible, Koran Torah Thumping, not to mention other general
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Belief in a god of any king
Hey Tim:
In oreder to have a chicken one must then have to have a fertile egg right
?
Ok, who insiminated the first egg? Ergo, Creation. The chicken came first.
:)
Actually, there was a non-chicken egg layer long before there was a
chicken. Ergo, Evolution. The egg came first.
The essence of egg-o-ism drew the chicken unto itself and into a future
probability as did the squawking joy of reverberating sound made by the
chicken as she laid her first egg. Forevermore the sound of joyful
laying of eggs shall disrupt hen houses followed by the cackle of
remembrance--a
God laid an egg?
H. . .
:)
Kirk
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The essence of egg-o-ism drew the chicken unto
itself and into a future
probability as did the squawking joy of
reverberating sound made by the
chicken as she laid her first egg. Forevermore the
sound of joyful
bob allen wrote:
What?
I have personally conducted experiments, verifiably and reproducibly
(as have countless others) that transform one kind of living thing
into another.
Really? The examples you have cited consist of variations on a theme.
A fruit fly is still a fruit fly. A
probability as did the squawking joy of reverberating sound made by the
chicken as she laid her first egg. Forevermore the sound of joyful
laying of eggs shall disrupt hen houses followed by the cackle of
remembrance--a feeling men will never know.
Peggy
Peggy, it's a nice story, but you're
I appreciate time-tested answers from learned thinkers. Paul Foster
Case reports that nature unaided fails and that sub-consciousness is
amiable to suggestion.
The essence of egg-o-ism drew the chicken unto itself and into a future
probability as did the squawking joy of reverberating sound
Cobb County Georgia School Board puts stickers on their biology books
stating that evolution is only a theory, all at the behest of a few
screaming meamies, and two thousand petition signers.
They're rationale? God is real but evolution is unproven.
Well now..., one must ask the question:
Hallo Robert,
The scientific method requires, if memory serves:
1. Define operational terms
2. Allow for experimental duplication, repeatability
3. Emperical observation and induction
4. Analytic-synthetic thinking
5. Prediction and falsification
6. Scientific public consensus of truth
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Further, no experimentation has ever demonstrated that non living
matter can be transformed into living things; nor has any verifiable,
reproducible experiment ever shown the transformation of one kind of
living thing into another. Our understanding of genetics harmonizes
with
Very interesting reading Martin. I did not realize there was so much involved
with discussion groups. Personally, I see no need for messages such as the one
originally listed here that you responded to. I don't think it benefited
anyone. Other than that, this list has a lot of interesting
general
sheeple tricks was Re: [Biofuel] about God
Appal Energy wrote:
Cobb County Georgia School Board puts stickers on their biology books
stating that evolution is only a theory, all at the behest of a few
screaming meamies, and two thousand petition signers.
They're rationale? God is real
Gabriel,
You are obviously a profound thinker so I will
pose a troubling question to you.
Which cam first? The Chicken..or the Egg?
Best wishes,
Tim
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Hallo Gabriel,
The problem with your proposition is that in logic one has to define
and agree upon terms and definitions and since God is a concept beyond
definition there can be no logical discussion about God. We can
discuss different beliefs we hold or don't hold about God or we
So this excrement you speak of? Can we make fuel or fertilizer from it?
Is it a fertilizer of great strength?
Does it Excrete often or once every millennia or so?
How might we transport this excrement?
mel
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From: Gabriel Proulx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:
Very well said...
Jonathan
Tim Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gabriel,
You are obviously a profound thinker so I will
pose a troubling question to you.
Which cam first? The Chicken..or the Egg?
Best wishes,
Tim
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But here is my 2 cents on god and the bible (or qur'an): People don't have
faith in god, people have faith in men (gender specific) that they told
Thanks Keith,
I can now rest easy :) !
Best wishes,
Tim
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 10:57 AM
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Um... the rooster?
Keith
Very
I have faith that a higher being exists but its not based in any writen work;
just my gut feeling.
I have to disagree.
and you are welcome to disagree= ;)
This is why we should 'study the scriptures, and pray about what they are
about, and what they mean ', and not just put blind trust in
, November 10, 2004 10:54
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The scriptures were writen by mortal hands not buy the had of any god.
therefore, they can and may be completley made up. You have faith that they
indeed are telling true stories. Its akin to the scientists studying maps
of a flat earth
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Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 1:39 PM
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You put words into my mouth.
I did not say that I have faith that they indeed are telling true
stories
.
Again, faith and trust
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