Driving In Circles
New Fuel-Efficiency Initiative Is More PR Than Progress
by Steven Rosenfeld
The Bush administration is giving Detroit a subsidy to develop
hydrogen-fueled cars. But if history is a guide, automakers will use the
program to cover their lack of any real progress on fuel
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/01/01172002/reu_46167.asp
- 1/17/2002 - ENN.com
U.S. science panel says Detroit can improve fuel use
Thursday, January 17, 2002
By Julie Vorman, Reuters
WASHINGTON - A National Academy of Sciences panel on Wednesday
rebutted criticisms from automakers and
Who Owns The Sky?
We All Do -- And Polluters Should Pay Us For Dumping There
by Ann Hancock
The Sky Trust is a free-market approach to reducing air pollution
that has an interesting dividend: annual payments to all U.S. citizens.
Such 'sky rent' could put a $1,000 check in your pocket each
This is never going to make headline news like the CJD prion but
never the less people are going to lose out on this deal.
But I'm from the neck of the woods that sufferred through the PBB
scare in late 1970's, devastated hundreds and few heard of it,
though, I'd think some would learn a
I'm sorry!! please add my comments to this article, had the wrong
article in memomory and I have no idea how to rephrase an article,
Please read the following:
Suspect Fish Meal Sparks European Food Alert
By Michael Hogan
HAMBURG (Reuters) - Four European countries scrambled on Wednesday to
i made the traslation, you can find it here:
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version:
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
with my english i don't know if you will understand better the spanish
could not find the translation when i clicked your site?
regrds, roger
i made the traslation, you can find it here:
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version:
excuse my ignorance but what is Dipetane and whrer can
one get it?
regards,roger
You can add Dipetane at a ratio of 1:200 and it should help most biofuels.
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Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
i made the traslation, you can find it here:
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
to see the biger photos you still need to go to the html spanish version:
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/Quemadorwvo.htm
with my english i don't know if you will understand better the spanish
Driving In Circles
New Fuel-Efficiency Initiative Is More PR Than Progress
by Steven Rosenfeld
The Bush administration is giving Detroit a subsidy to develop
hydrogen-fueled cars. But if history is a guide, automakers will use the
program to cover their lack of any real progress on fuel
http://enn.com/news/wire-stories/2002/01/01172002/reu_46167.asp
- 1/17/2002 - ENN.com
U.S. science panel says Detroit can improve fuel use
Thursday, January 17, 2002
By Julie Vorman, Reuters
WASHINGTON - A National Academy of Sciences panel on Wednesday
rebutted criticisms from automakers and
Who Owns The Sky?
We All Do -- And Polluters Should Pay Us For Dumping There
by Ann Hancock
The Sky Trust is a free-market approach to reducing air pollution
that has an interesting dividend: annual payments to all U.S. citizens.
Such 'sky rent' could put a $1,000 check in your pocket each
try again, is a word file on english, sometimes geocities said that there
was a lot of trafic and disabbles the acces for a while, try again an tell
me, Àyou get any error?
http://www.geocities.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
-Mensaje original-
De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL
Excellent! -thank you very much Adrian
Any further info would be much appreciated - I was beginning to doubt my
sanity (again). A Masters research project rests on this idea and the
company I work for would love to be able to give added value to the copper
cylinders we replace when installing
now is in other server, i hope now it works better.
english version:
http://www27.brinkster.com/manolorolan/wvoburner.doc
spanish version with big photos:
http://www27.brinkster.com/manolorolan/quemadorwvo.htm
tell me if you are having any problems
Manolo rolan
Valencia, Spain
-Mensaje
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC)
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Cummins Diesel Engines
I have 50 cummins engines for sale , low hours , 400 hp vt400 turbo V8
engines
Triple Nickles? How much?
Joe.
opening a valve on the air circuit that lets the air came out the circuit,
it reduces the air presure on the burner and reduce the flame, i want to try
too with a valve on the oil feed.
as soon i have any new result i will post it here
Manolo Rolan
Valencia, Spain
-Mensaje original-
the problem here that the sky puluted is not only owned by us citizens, and
the more afected by climate change are the citizens far awey the us, like
the ones afected by the mitch, or the starvation, on central america.
and still other problem, big american enterprises goes to contaminate
I think there's an inherent problem with the whole idea of pollution
credits and the commodifcation of our entire environment. How have we
gotten to the point where we don't think it's absurd to charge rent for
the sky? Also, as to who owns the sky, we all do--that all is not just
homo sapiens.
Manolo is right in that the sky does not end at the Big River boundary. The
laws of nature (thermodynamics) tell us that mass flows always go in the
direction of the more to the less. Heat moves from the hotter to the colder,
water flows from the higher to the lower, and unfortunately, pollution
In a message dated 01/17/2002 2:04:27 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
excuse my ignorance but what is Dipetane and where can
one get it?
regards, roger
Roger: It is available from Bob Pond at Combustion Technologies
1-800-993-6370. You add it at the
In a message dated 01/17/2002 2:04:27 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
excuse my ignorance but what is Dipetane and where can
one get it?
regards, roger
Roger: It is available from Bob Pond at Combustion Technologies
1-800-993-6370. You add it at the
Andres,
It is anybody´s wild guess when dollars will begin
to obey the laws of
nature.
Andydownsouth
Sadly the very concept of currency allows the
accumulation of unatural amounts of wealth. Without
chits one would be unable to squirrel away more
wealth than one had a natural ability to spend
After doing the math I see a conflict addressed below \/
(was) Subject: Re: [biofuel] Steam powered bike
The web page,
entitled:Efficiency of Fuel Cells
subtitle: Fuel-Cell-Powered Electric Car
when doing the calculations;
80 percent - efficiency of the electric motor/inverter
It is anybody´s wild guess when dollars will begin
to obey the laws of
nature.
Andydownsouth
They do, once you ignore the spin that says otherwise. The winds of
free trade quite naturally favour the ships with the biggest sails.
Free market forces naturally drive goods towards those
I always like to post those tough chemistry questions since I am a
chemistry major in college right now, and the current one is one I
believe I asked a while back, but got no response.
In a car powered by a fuel cell where hydrogen is essentially the
main fuel source, or solely the fuel
GOD owns the sky and i'm afraid that he's not too happy
with our stewardship of it.
kind regards roger kurz
Andres,
It is anybody«s wild guess when dollars will begin
to obey the laws of
nature.
Andydownsouth
Sadly the very concept of currency allows the
accumulation of
You might get some answers here. Found it a while ago while looking for other
ways to power engines. First topic is the previously mentioned skateboard car
with pictures.
-Original Message-
From: jmwelter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2002 21:57:43 -
To:
You ask the question of a fuel cell burning hydrogen. Your error is in the
question. A fuel cell combines hydrogen and oxygen in a chemical reaction not
in combustion to produce electricity, heat, and water.
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Sorry missed the link
http://www.hfcletter.com/
-Original Message-
From: Brian Dickinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 08:18:46 +0800
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] hydrogen powered cars - am I missing something?
You might get some answers here. Found
In a message dated 01/17/2002 10:44:40 AM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry Richard, no attachments allowed on this list. Suggest send the
info by email, if it can do without graphics (no html either).
Keith just trying to be helpful. I have been in the energy
Hello All:
Tested my Mercedes 300TDT left on SVO overnight (on purpose...really!).
The VEG-Therm starts amperage draw starts off slowly and takes about the
same time to come up to full power heating as it takes for the glow plugs to
shut off.
So, they were both on at the same time...no
JM,
I believe that when hydrogen is used in a fuel cell it is not burned but
recombined with oxygen and the recombining of the two produces electricity that
will run the electric motor like in the fuel cells used in space.
Patrick M
- Original Message -
From: jmwelter
To:
where does one buy a vegtherm ?
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jmwelter wrote:
In a car powered by a fuel cell where hydrogen is essentially the
main fuel source, or solely the fuel source, what is used to burn
it?
Oxygen in the air.
It may sound like a dumb question, but the atmosphere is 80%
nitrogen. If air was used to burn hydrogen, then
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