[biofuels-biz] Recombining fatty acid and glycerine
What I think is neither here nor there. The place to find actual results from attempts to reconstitute glycerides is the German Ersatz literature from the two World Wars. Germany experienced a severe shortage of fats and oils in both wars, and so experimented on processes to synthesize glycerides from residues of other processes. My IMPRESSION (I have NOT read the literature) is that these attempts were not very successful. Do not, however, take that as the last word on the subject! Start looking in the US Government research reports bibliographies from just after WWII - '46, 47 - when they were cataloguing the technical literature taken from the defeated Axis countries. That material is now in the possession of the Library of Congress and is available through their Photoduplication Service. Marc de Piolenc Iligan City, Philippines From: day2knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Recombining fatty acid and glycerine Is there any way to recombine the glycerine and free fatty acid? If this is possible we can use the glycerine from previous BD production and use this to neutralize high FFA SVO. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuels-biz] New EU countries and biofuel
John This reduction was confirmed by the belgian tax authorities. But nothing is certain until it is firmly decided. It was already reported from 2003 to 2004. winny -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John Venema [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: vrijdag 25 oktober 2002 23:14 Aan: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: Re: [biofuels-biz] New EU countries and biofuel Are you sure about that tax reduction in 2004? That would be good news for us living in the Benelux. John Venema - Original Message - From: Winny De Schryver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: RE: [biofuels-biz] New EU countries and biofuel Triafro, Biodiesel exist already in the new countries. Czeck reppublic has a plant, Poland has a plant and there are plans for 2 new plants, one by BDI Austia and one by SPT US. Mainly rapeseed oil is used for the production in Poland. I live in Belgium and perhaps the regulations are the same as in the UK. Taxes on biodiesel are the same as on mineral diesel. But in 2004 there will be a reduction of 100 % for these taxes in the EU. Taxes are to be payed as soon as biodiesel is commercialised. There is also VAT to pay on biodiesel. Winny -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: triafro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: woensdag 23 oktober 2002 19:32 Aan: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Onderwerp: [biofuels-biz] New EU countries and biofuel Does anyone know if the economic agreements being brokered with the 10 new countries to join the EU (Cyprus, Czeck Rep, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia) or the future candidates (Bulgaria, Romania, Turkey) have touched upon economic policy towards bio-fuels? Aren't the EU hoping to increase bi-diesel production to 11% by 2010 or something did I read? Therefore, are they going to apply pressure to these former Eastern Block countries to fall in line with mainland Europe in terms of their incentives towards bio-diesel i.e. taxation levels. Also, I am slightly confused. If one were to make bio-diesel in the UK, what rate of tax would I need to pay per litre to use it legally, when/how would I pay it? Do I put it in my tax return form? Thanks Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
FW: [biofuels-biz] Re: New EU countries and biofuel
Matt EU parliaments report is at http://www2.europarl.eu.int/omk/sipade2?PUBREF=-//EP//NONSGML+REPORT+A5-2002 -0218+0+DOC+PDF+V0//ENL=ENLEVEL=3NAV=SLSTDOC=Y As I understood it this should become law in 2004 and allow countries to give tax reductions or exemptions as they see fit, then again I'm not at all clued up with the details of EU law, so maybe I misunderstand. There is a bit more on this at the Danish Folkcenter website:- http://www.folkecenter.dk/plant-oil/news/PPOnews_04072002.htm Darren -Original Message- From: triafro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 October 2002 22:49 To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuels-biz] Re: New EU countries and biofuel John Venema [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure about that tax reduction in 2004? That would be good news for us living in the Benelux. Tell me about it, and the UK!! Will the tax reduction actually be enforced in all current and new EU countries sometime in 2004. Do you have any other information or documentation on this? Matt (Triafro) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home for Top $ http://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/jd3IAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuels-biz] Report: Vegetable Oil as a Fuel
I have been working on this report on and off for some time now. I have decided to put it online at http://www.vegburner.co.uk/report.html My hope, in doing so, is that this will be regularly updated document giving a good balanced overview of the technologies, providing a resource for development, lobbying etc. There is lot of information on the net but it's everywhere and finding what you require is often easier said than done. I feel that I have the basics covered but would welcome further contributions. I have mainly been researching SVO so other parts are a bit lacking, also some material could doubtlessly use rewriting, more supporting references and figures. All contributors will be credited. Any comments gratefully received. I'm considering having a forum attached where text and updates can be discussed. I may at some time in the future try and get the content published if it appears appropriate but material is free for non commercial use with the normal conditions. Darren Hill Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuels-biz] Recombining fatty acid and glycerine
Greeting Marc. Have you tried making biodiesel out of your cooking oil? _ Unlimited Internet access for only $21.95/month.Ê Try MSN! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/2monthsfree.asp Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/9bTolB/TM -~- Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Releasing of energy in a nuclear reaction is due to the volume ...
~200 MEV is released per fission of U235. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Putting back together glycerine and fatty acid
I would have thought this was possible since glycerine is a base (correct me if I'm wrong). With removal of water by evaporation (the reverse of hydrolysis) . Paddy Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] We need alternative energy now
Hi, I am actually a population activist, but I thought that you may be interested that the push for alternative fuels may come sooner than you think. The new terrorism is essentially a dispute over oil (refer bin Laden's stated reasons for 9/11 - refer Bush's zeal to get at the Iraqi oil reserves). The solution: The world has to move on from oil. Leave the oil in the ground and pursue alternative forms of energy now. As long as the U.S. oil companies are seen as the rapacious exploiters of the Arab oil reserves the new terrorism is here to stay. Yours truly, Brad Bartholomew __ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your web site http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now
As long as the U.S. oil companies are seen as the rapacious exploiters of the Arab oil reserves the new terrorism is here to stay. They aren't seen as exploiters of oil, American society is. Oil will stop being used when it's all used up or technology forces it's discontinuation, or it gets so expensive to find it that it is no longer worth it. We will still be around by that time? Only time will tell Tad Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Report: Vegetable Oil as a Fuel
I have been working on this report on and off for some time now. I have decided to put it online at http://www.vegburner.co.uk/report.html My hope, in doing so, is that this will be regularly updated document giving a good balanced overview of the technologies, providing a resource for development, lobbying etc. There is lot of information on the net but it's everywhere and finding what you require is often easier said than done. I feel that I have the basics covered but would welcome further contributions. I have mainly been researching SVO so other parts are a bit lacking, also some material could doubtlessly use rewriting, more supporting references and figures. All contributors will be credited. Any comments gratefully received. I'm considering having a forum attached where text and updates can be discussed. I may at some time in the future try and get the content published if it appears appropriate but material is free for non commercial use with the normal conditions. Darren Hill Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] White Spirits Mix with WVO/SVO
One that my dad was told ( by his mechanic ) to thin down dino diesel in winter by putting 1/2 gal. of gasoline into the tank before filling normally with diesel, this might work with Bio Diesel. Another I've heard of , but, I don't know how effective is to use some toluene. Greg H. - Original Message - From: coachgeo3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 21:06 Subject: [biofuel] White Spirits Mix with WVO/SVO Apparently there was a report on the BBC on 10/20 about the use of White Spirits (Mineral Spirits?... paint thinner?) as a blending agent for thinning down the WVO/SVO for use as is in Diesel engines (Indirect inject) Reccomendation was as little as 3%. Anyone have anymore info on this other other potential thinning agents that is cost effective. Would this type agent increase or imporves the cetane potential? Thanx. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now
Dont forget also that Smoking is linked to just about every cancer out there.. Not just lung cancer. In school one instructor told us that the poisons in ciggarette smoke is so potent that if you took a small amount of normal saline and ran it through a used filter and then injected it in a vein it would kill you. anyone care to try it? The human body is an amazing thing to keep running for as long as it does considering the abuse we put on it. --Bryan - Original Message - From: Grahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now I am actually a population activist, but I thought that you may be interested that the push for alternative fuels may come sooner than you think. The new terrorism is essentially a dispute over oil (refer bin Laden's stated reasons for 9/11 - refer Bush's zeal to get at the Iraqi oil reserves). The solution: The world has to move on from oil. Leave the oil in the ground and pursue alternative forms of energy now. As long as the U.S. oil companies are seen as the rapacious exploiters of the Arab oil reserves the new terrorism is here to stay. Gee,ya think... apparently you are not told enough to have developed that cynical there are no simple solutions, and even if there were people wouldn't change philosophy. My appalling current favorite is smoking. People have known that smoking causes and contributes to cancer for about 40 years or more. Yet today, in the USA, a developed country with reasonable school attendance and media exposure, more kids are starting to smoke than even 20 years ago- NOT LESS! These kids have all known people with cancer some rather intimately, yet still they puff away. If you ask why, it always comes down to because it is cool- or bad One boy, 20, never smoked (cigarettes) before, started after he was released from jail since he couldn't do drugs on probation, to be able to hang with his old friends- other wise they have nothing to do together. Caroline [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Looking for a more powerful website? Try GeoCities for $8.95 per month. Register your domain name (http://your-name.com). More storage! No ads! http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info http://us.click.yahoo.com/auyVXB/KJoEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now
At 07:17 PM 10/26/02 -0700, you wrote: Dont forget also that Smoking is linked to just about every cancer out there.. Not just lung cancer. Actually Dino diesel is 100 times more cancerous than cigarettes Tad Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Plan to Sell a Home? http://us.click.yahoo.com/J2SnNA/y.lEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] We need alternative energy now
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