[biofuels-biz] Local farmers told to use natural pesticides

2004-01-08 Thread Ken Gotberg
This may be a bit off topic, but interesting nonetheless to me. There are ways to put an electric charge on droplets allowing more effective use of sprays because they stick to the plant rather than falling on the ground. This requires a spray distance of less than one meter making it difficult

[biofuels-biz] Re: [biofuel] Petro Politics

2004-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM http://www.petropolitics.org/index.htm I wonder how this conference is going. I've also wondered that a couple of times, but I was effectively deterred by their website, fraught with Flash and wall-to-wall java and zilch content. Anyway, they've now published a conference report. It's

[biofuels-biz] Vegie Oil

2004-01-08 Thread cheneyvii
Group, I've been looking into which SVO would be the best for high-end production uses. I've looked into the JTF site, but would like to gain the knowledge from somebody who has production experience in this matter. Which oil is the best for high quality bio-diesel. Which oil will be most

Re: [biofuels-biz] Local farmers told to use natural pesticides

2004-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ken This may be a bit off topic, but interesting nonetheless to me. Only a bit - it doesn't make much sense producing allegedly sustainable biofuels by means of non-sustainable crop production methods. There are ways to put an electric charge on droplets allowing more effective use of

[biofuels-biz] Fwd: Feedstock Roadmap Released

2004-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
Forward from Tim Castleman: Date: 8 Jan 2004 03:26:19 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feedstock Roadmap Released In November 2003, the U.S. Department of Energy released the Roadmap for Agriculture Biomass Feedstock Supply in the United States. The Roadmap defines

Re: [biofuel] VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread alex
Turbines kill birds. Alex Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Public Biodiesel Companies?

2004-01-08 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
ADM On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 10:23 AM, Chris H. wrote: I was wondering if anyone was aware of any publicly traded companies that are doing significant work with biodiesel and other biofuels? I'd like to look at investing in companies that are doing good biofuel work,

[biofuel] Re: MODERATOR'S MESSAGE - PLEASE READ

2004-01-08 Thread pivincent
Were the west running on biodiesel, this topic (as interesting as it was) would not even have come up! Pierre --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thread: Fwd: FW: Feeling Patriotic? is now closed. No more messages on this topic please. Keith

RE: [biofuel] Bio-derived Packaging?

2004-01-08 Thread Bryan Brah
Mention of biodegradable popcorn packaging material seems pretty ridiculous to me particularly considering that there aren't many things more biodegradable than real popcorn. I've got an old hot air popper that I picked up from a garage sale for $5, so any time I need to mail a fragile package,

[biofuel] Re: VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread whc281
Have you looked into devices currently available for boats? As a former cruising sailor, I used solar and diesel, but many folks also used wind generators. Works well on boats, especially in lattitudes of the daily, steady trade winds. Personally I craved absolute quiet. The wind mills

Re: [biofuel] VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread robert luis rabello
alex wrote: Turbines kill birds. Alex Please qualify your statement. Large turbines in migratory paths have been known to kill raptors. This is unfortunate, and work needs to be done in this area. However, making a blanket statement of this nature leads uninformed people to believe

Re: [biofuel] VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Hoagy, Looked at, Wind Energy Systems http://www.eece.ksu.edu/~gjohnson/ Liked it as a basic text book, but it seems a bit old on newer development. Well worth to read. Hakan At 00:53 08/01/2004, you wrote: you wrote: Hoagy, It is quite interesting, because after I posted this on

Re: [biofuel] Re: VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Bill, I have seen those, but they are expensive for what they deliver. Probably because they sell in a premium market segment. You are always quite close to them on a boat and I agree, silence is a very great part of the sailing experience and I can imagine that any non-natural sound is

Re: [biofuel] Re: Plastic oil drum for Simple 5 gallon processor

2004-01-08 Thread Alan Petrillo
skillshare wrote: The fires which happened in plastic processors were in our area in Northern California, happened multiple times, and involved a 'ready-made' plastic conical processor design which used a heating element threaded into plastic PVC fitting in the bottom of the cone. If I

[biofuel] Young innovators propose new ways to save the earth

2004-01-08 Thread Ken Gotberg
Young innovators propose new ways to save the earth Friday, July 25, 2003 The United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), the University of New South Wales and Bayer sponsored the inaugural week-long Eco-Innovate 03 in Sydney last week to provide a venue for leading, young eco-innovators

Re: [biofuel] Humanure

2004-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Dan Keith Addison said: There won't be any effects -- IF it's properly composted. Please note what I said to Myke - what I always say: Just make sure it's hot compost - aerobic, thermophilic. It should hit 60 deg C (140F) or more, and then all will be well. That is a different

Re: [biofuel] Petro Politics

2004-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM http://www.petropolitics.org/index.htm I wonder how this conference is going. I've also wondered that a couple of times, but I was effectively deterred by their website, fraught with Flash and wall-to-wall java and zilch content. Anyway, they've now published a conference report. It's

[biofuel] OT: Pet Food Content

2004-01-08 Thread murdoch
(written by APRL President, with a plug for APRL products at the end, but seemingly valuable): http://www.fila.org/peak/dirtydogs.htm http://www.takingthelead.co.uk/2/Health/pet_dog_food.htm 1997 FDA release regarding Ethoxyquin reduction request:

[biofuel] Petro Politics

2004-01-08 Thread murdoch
http://www.petropolitics.org/index.htm I wonder how this conference is going. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To

RE: [biofuel] Honduras Proposal

2004-01-08 Thread guillermo Kleinbielen
Hola Keith: Gracias. Muchas gracias por la informacion se nota que es un grupo de personas muy abietas de pensamiento y multiculturales que superan barreras idiomaticas. Desde ya gracias. --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribi—: - Hola Guillermo Have you

[biofuel] We don't want no stinking wind in our backyard!

2004-01-08 Thread Appal Energy
Wonder if New Yorkers will moan, groan and whine as much as the Cronkites and Kennedys over wind turbines in Nantucket sound? http://www.battlemccarthy.com/news.html http://www.battlemccarthy.com/News1.html Also gives cause to wonder what type of catastrophe has to happen to get the solar

Re: [biofuel] Bio-derived Packaging?

2004-01-08 Thread Greg and April
I always thought that this was stupid, after all the package, is supposed to protect the food from contamination. What are they going to do now, put the edible package into another package to protect the edible packaging from contamination? Greg H. - Original Message - From:

Re: [biofuel] VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread alex
I think that this is an established fact. Now imagine the situation: you spend tens of thousand to install the turbine, and every day it kills someone. In my opinion, turbine is not an answer. What is the real answer? - Energy derived from disassociation of matter. Matter is a conserved energy.

[biofuel] Diesel-powered passenger cars aiming for bigger chunk of US market

2004-01-08 Thread murdoch
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=1505ncid=1505e=4u=/afp/20040108/ts_alt_afp/us_auto_diesel_040108145123 Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe

Re: [biofuel] Humanure

2004-01-08 Thread Dan Maker
Keith Addison said: meosphilic? Middle loving? Almost: mid-range temperature loving. Mesophilic microbes live and grow at temperatures between 50 and 113 deg F (10-45 deg C), followed by thermophilic microbes that thrive between 113 and 158 deg F (45-70 deg C). Sort of, there'll

Re: [biofuel] We don't want no stinking wind in our backyard!

2004-01-08 Thread Friedrich Friesinger
Hallo Todd, it is no Buissines for us,non US Citicens to change your political System. But as long you guys vote for AR.SCH i doubt anything could change Fritz from Canada - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:23

Re: [biofuel] VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread MH
you wrote: Hoagy, Looked at, Wind Energy Systems http://www.eece.ksu.edu/~gjohnson/ Liked it as a basic text book, but it seems a bit old on newer development. Well worth to read. Hakan Thanks Hakan. The basics are what I need to understand. He does talk about the

Re: [biofuel] Bio-derived Packaging?

2004-01-08 Thread murdoch
I wonder if there are some middle-ground compromise type products? In the case of the corn-starch packaging popcorn, maybe it is not quite as desireable to vermin as to cause this sort of problem? I heard of the product a few months ago, and will wait-to-see as to how it starts to look from a

Re: [biofuel] VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread Hakan Falk
Hoagy, Thanks, it was very interesting and I missed it. Need to check it, but if it is right it is quite a big thing. All literature I looked at, set the Savonius at 14%, but also the American Multiblade at 14%. Will be interesting to explore. LOL He is right, it will take decades to

Re: [biofuel] WINTER BD

2004-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tomas Sorry for the late response to this. First, regarding additives etc, there is now some info on this at our website which you should find useful - down to -25 deg C, in one case. It's at this page: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_winter.html Biodiesel in winter: Journey to

[biofuel] Fwd: Feedstock Roadmap Released

2004-01-08 Thread Keith Addison
Forward from Tim Castleman: Date: 8 Jan 2004 03:26:19 - To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Feedstock Roadmap Released In November 2003, the U.S. Department of Energy released the Roadmap for Agriculture Biomass Feedstock Supply in the United States. The Roadmap defines

Re: [biofuel] VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread MH
you wrote: Hoagy, Thanks, it was very interesting and I missed it. Need to check it, but if it is right it is quite a big thing. All literature I looked at, set the Savonius at 14%, but also the American Multiblade at 14%. Will be interesting to explore. LOL He is right, it will take

Re: [biofuel] We don't want no stinking wind in our backyard!

2004-01-08 Thread Appal Energy
Fritz, AR.SCH? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Friedrich Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:29 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] We don't want no stinking wind in our backyard! Hallo Todd, it is no Buissines for us,non

Re[2]: [biofuel] We don't want no stinking wind in our backyard!

2004-01-08 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Todd, Well, if you take away the period you have a perfectly fine German word which translates as ass (the kind for sitting not for riding). :o) Happy Happy, Gustl Thursday, 08 January, 2004, 16:18:03, you wrote: AE Fritz, AE AR.SCH? AE Todd Swearingen Hallo Todd, it is no

Re: [biofuel] VW-turbine

2004-01-08 Thread Darryl McMahon
alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that this is an established fact. Now imagine the situation: you spend tens of thousand to install the turbine, and every day it kills someone. In my opinion, turbine is not an answer. What is the real answer? - Energy derived from disassociation of