Don't forget that some plants are C4 type plants and when it is hot can not
uptake CO2, but, do have the ability to uptake methanol instead to use the
Carbon in it, when they can not uptake CO2, so you may end up fertilizing them,
instead of killing them.
Greg H.
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It warmed up, and, what ever it was that was making it cloudy went back in to
solution. My guess is that you didn't have a complete reaction, I say this
because of your low PH, if I remember right, good BioDiesel has a near neutral
Ph ( 7 ).
Did you let it cool down and if so did it become
I looked and saw the information about using just ethanol or just methanol,
but, not anything about mixtures of methanol and ethanol ( then again, no
matter how hard I try, I never seem to be able to find everything at JtF ).
What I remember is someone talking about using enough methanol,
Thanks Keith,
one of those topics I need to do more research on.
However, I cringed when I saw the references to Blue Gold. While I
definitely
sympathize with the sentiment, I found the book itself to be so filled with
errors
that I wonder if it helps or hinders the cause.
On the other
I wonder why it stayed cloudy untill it sat in the sun for a couple of
minutes. Any ideas?
Solar heat. You need to vent the moisture that came out of solution.
Otherwise the biodiesel will return to a cloudy state upon cooling.
Todd Swearingen
- Original Message -
From: Jeff [EMAIL
lol, Here in Vermont that would be Bary Callebaut ... Would that
do? Grinning from ear to ear ..
Quite sufficient.
Vegan versions (no honey as sweetener) are preferred. Wouldn't want to over
work any of Burt's bees. They're already exceeding the 40 hour work week.
Todd
Yes!
- Original Message -
From: Andres Yver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 9:38 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Circulation with pump washing
On Monday, September 6, 2004, at 06:41 PM, biofuel@yahoogroups.com
wrote:
1) Throw out your
Hi Greg
I looked and saw the information about using just ethanol or just
methanol, but, not anything about mixtures of methanol and ethanol (
then again, no matter how hard I try, I never seem to be able to
find everything at JtF ).
The first isn't right, and the second is very puzzling!
Hi Darryl
Thanks Keith,
one of those topics I need to do more research on.
Don't we all!
However, I cringed when I saw the references to Blue Gold. While
I definitely
sympathize with the sentiment, I found the book itself to be so
filled with errors
that I wonder if it helps or hinders the
Hello Dave
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was disappointed that while various people were very appreciative,
yet, with such good data to hand, not much more came of it. Why did
that discussion fizzle, folks? That info, plus more in the archives,
I see it now in step 9, but, I honestly didn't see anything about meth / eth
mixtures before, probably because I was looking for a specific title about
eth/meth mixes, and not a couple of sentences in the instructions themselves.
As for the other part, it would probably be more accurate to say
Hi Greg
I see it now in step 9, but, I honestly didn't see anything about
meth / eth mixtures before, probably because I was looking for a
specific title about eth/meth mixes, and not a couple of sentences
in the instructions themselves.
We have to be a bit careful about what we give
Hi Greg ;
Yes this is a potentially useful application of
methanol if you don't recover it from the wash water.
I think it is C3 plants which benefit from methanol
though. From my library Methanol Production and
Use, 1994, pp 254 :
These photosynthetically efficient plants, generally
Hi Peter
Lot's more if anyone is interested.
Yes! Interested. So is the archives.
Best wishes
Keith
Hi Greg ;
Yes this is a potentially useful application of
methanol if you don't recover it from the wash water.
I think it is C3 plants which benefit from methanol
though. From my library
Hi Mohamed,
Could you tell me what EU legislation you are talking about or have you a
reference to it?
Regards
Dermot
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Sent: 07 September 2004 11:10
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: ready to go
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Keith,
when it comes to JtF, I never hold my breath, because I would be dead of
asphyxiation, long before I get half way through the site. LOL, I never know
what I'm going to find next, over at JtF.
As it is, I have been hitting the Making biodiesel section hard, trying to
figure out
You might be right, I still get my C3 and C4 plants mixed up.
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: Guag Meister
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 02:43
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Use for wash water
Hi Greg ;
Yes this is a potentially useful
Hi Keith and All ;
Yes! Interested. So is the archives.
Let's properly credit the authors : Methanol
Production and Use, edited by Wu-Hsun Cheng and
Harold H. Kung. ISBN 0-8247-9223-8. Chapter 7,
Agriculture and Methanol, about 8 pages on this topic.
Then there is another section on single
Hi Ross,
Many people spent Labor Day weekend camping, hiking or
climbing in America's great national parks and forests. But
the peace, quiet and environmental health of these
natural places is threatened by the buzzing and polluting
of off-road vehicles. As a recipient of Animals and
Hello Keith and other interested respondents,
This is a long post--I apologize in advance.
I wrote a fairly long personal reply about our water-cleaning device to
a couple of list members because I didn't think that the project was
exactly suited for the biofuels list. Our researchers are
The tanks have a 4 drain with an on/off valve at the bottom. There
is a 12 opening at the top with a lid. I think it would be very
easy to wash using a water hose with high pressure. I would only
store finished BD. An excellent setteling tank.
Yahoo! Groups
I had this book, but, almost forgot were it was.
Methanol Production and Use, Edited by: Wu-Hsun Cheng and Harold H. Kung
ISBN: 0-8247-9223-8
1994 ( 10th printing )
Chapter 7 is all about methanol and agriculture.
Here is some excerpts from it:
On pages 255 and 256, the impression is given,
Sometimes it's important to say nothing.
Greg H.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 07:07
Subject: [biofuel] Hello
Important notice!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Sometimes it's important to say nothing.
Greg H.
Just another virus, claiming to be Kim this time - but, what we know
about dear Kim is that if she says Hello to you she'll definitely
say Bright blessings! before she says goodbye!
Anyway, once again, note the bit at the bottom which said:
That is why I said Sometimes it's important to say nothing., sometimes what
is not said is more important than what is, and in this case it was.
Greg H.
- Original Message -
From: Keith Addison
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 09:47
Subject:
Is it, or would it be practical to use SVO products in gen-sets producing power
or in a continuous operational situation? In vehicles if there were a
pre-heating system? Are there good Agricultural products with high oil content
that can be grown in colder climates, like the upper reaches of
I was thinking of using one as my final storage tank once the BD was finished (
if I could find one that is :-P ).
Greg H.
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From: JHP31
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 08:00
Subject: [biofuel] Cleaning caged poly tanks
Those sound more complicated. I live in a large city and not toomany plants
around :(
what other use is there? Say i do a proper methanol recovery. Or what do i do
with it? Flush down the drain? Maby i could install a system to use it as
toilet flush that way it would clean the toilet a bit
Hello--
My name is Ana Elisa Fuentes, I am new to the group. I
live in Santa Barbara, CA. I need your wise input
about my diesel car selection...please! Has anyone had
experience with 1985 Mercedes-Benz 190D Sedan 4D ? You
input is GREATLY appreciated.
I'm looking for that diesel car to make the
Post In-line for Context
When you quote, you're doing it to provide context. Requiring your
readers to scroll down and then back, repeatedly (as they attempt to
figure out what the heck you're talking about), is a rather difficult
way for you to make the context available. Providing the
Netiquette
Play nice, children.
by Ben Goren
Why?
A great deal of human interaction is all about protocol and
etiquette. It's not just a matter of which fork to use first at a
fancy dinner: whether you address your boss as Mrs. Smith or
Barbara or Barbie is determined by etiquette. These
To clean these tanks, how about just going to a car wash and using their
hot water and soap pressure washer? Seems like it would work. I've got
one that needs a good cleaning I think I'll give it a try.
Chris
JHP31 wrote:
The tanks have a 4 drain with an on/off valve at the bottom. There
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Thank you. I found that after heating the biodiesel up, it cleared up, rather
nicely. It is nice to be back on track again. I had started a more vigorous
bubble washing in hopes of cutting down time on the bubble washing. I am
starting to think that some air was trap in the biodiesel too. I
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