[Biofuel] wash problem

2005-04-26 Thread Brent S
methanol,(18.9 litres for 80 litres of oil) and mixed for one hour and 15 minutes. Could the problem be not enough lye? Brent ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:

Re: [Biofuel] Which Oil is Best

2005-04-26 Thread Darryl McMahon
Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] stirred the pot thusly: This is just way to much to contemplate, first thing in the morning. I don't drink, but, this might drive me to it. Greg H. Um, yes, well, sorry. Try coffee (best to stir it anticlockwise). I think I was just cavilling at the

Re: [Biofuel] wash problem

2005-04-26 Thread Fred Finch
Sounds like water in the oil before you start. Make sure your oil has *NO* water in it. There are two ways listed in JTF. unless you like cottage cheese... fred On 4/25/05, Brent S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am still getting cottage cheese durring the wash cycle. I have enough

Re: [Biofuel] wash problem

2005-04-26 Thread Appal Energy
Possibly. Take a liter sample of what you believe to be finished fuel and retreat it to see if any more glycerol drops out. Strong probability that your catalyst is being consumed before the reaction completes, leaving you with a sufficient volume of mono- and di-glyceride emulsifiers.

Re: [Biofuel] hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
OK But don't shoot the messanger. I was paraphrasing some of the info from the site. I didn't design the device and have no association with that company. I posted the item because I thought that it was interesting. I have some reservations about their system as well. regards tallex

[Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind generator regards tallex Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news sources-resources updated daily http://www.alternate-energy.net ---Original Message--- From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Biofuel] wash problem

2005-04-26 Thread Ken Provost
on 4/25/05 5:38 PM, Appal Energy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could the problem be not enough lye? Possibly. Indeed. And the way to find that out is to titrate your oil. How did it come out? If you had a lot of FFA, it would've consumed your lye and you wouldn't have had enough to run the

[Biofuel] Hot Oil

2005-04-26 Thread Ken Provost
latest batch of biodiesel came out really Orange. And it had a very intense burning smell (not burning -- just the liquid). I realized the cafeteria must've done a Thai pepper dish -- and it was still in the OIL! Love it:-) -K ___ Biofuel mailing

Re: [Biofuel] Jelled ethanol with charcoal and cellulose

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Greeting Larry Dear Larry Think of using the fuel gel made using cellulose powder or wood charcoal carbon powder for making fuel from alcohol . Several important information are available from the old list archives of this group. It is not very clear whether

Re: [Biofuel] Disolved air stones

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
I was washing my last batch and my air stones disolved. What could cause this problem? Brent The biodiesel (or maybe it's the remaining excess methanol) eats the bonding agent that holds them together. We use ceramic airstones, they've lasted more than two years now, not expensive. Or

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Kirk McLoren
And if you dumped the power into a resistor (heater) you would get twice as much heat as the fireplace. Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind generator regards tallex Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news

Re: [Biofuel] Which Oil is Best

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
This is just way to much to contemplate, first thing in the morning. I don't drink, but, this might drive me to it. Greg H. Um, yes, well, sorry. Try coffee (best to stir it anticlockwise). I think I was just cavilling at the prospect of having to debunk John Nicholson (biopower),

Re: [Biofuel] Which Oil is Best

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Chris a Žcrit : Do you suppose that UK developed a taste for palm oil because it was readily available from 'the empire'? maybe, but then It also should be available for France. In fact here (France, EU) you can find palm oil bars in every supermarket. (the most famous brand is Vegetaline

[Biofuel] Fwd: The Overstory #154--Agroforester's Library (update)

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
From: The Overstory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The Overstory #154--Agroforester's Library (update) THE OVERSTORY #154--Agroforester's Library (revised and updated) by Permanent Agriculture Resources :: SCHEDULE NOTICE: The next edition of The Overstory is expected to be

[Biofuel] Re: was- hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
---Original Message--- From: Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Well I didn't design the darn thing. I posted it because I thought it was an interesting idea. I always have respect for hydrogen and have been constructing many electrolisers over the years. There are a couple of

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread bob allen
recover the lost heat, but still there have to be better ways to provide space heat. It would be just as efficient and a lot cheaper to run a bare nichrome wire for heat. Alt.EnergyNetwork wrote: I would think that you could power the electrolizer with PV or a wind generator regards

Re: [Biofuel] Jelled ethanol with charcoal and cellulose:solid biofuel

2005-04-26 Thread Pannir P.V
Greeting Keith Even though we spend several hours of search in Internet about gelled fuel, we are not able to find any information about the use of the cellulose , but which have been reported to be very successful. Thank you Keith bringing here real practical

RE: [Biofuel] human gene in rice

2005-04-26 Thread Juan Boveda
Hello Kirk. Oppss, a new chimera was born in the labs at Tsukuba, I remember there were many rice field around and inside that town. I hope they have already have tested and evaluated the eficiency of a control messures or pest for that kind of rice as the nature does for every living thing to

[Biofuel] heat the cottage cheese

2005-04-26 Thread Brent S
the cottage cheese. I took it to 100F and everything cleared up. I then took the washed deiesel and shook it in a jar of water. It started to sepparate almost immediately. Any coments? Did I just need to use warm water instead of cold? Brent ___

Re: [Biofuel] hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Pieter Koole
Hi Greg, If I where you, I would be a little more carefull, telling people that try to find environmentle friendly ways of heating their house, that what they say is a joke. Making H2 costs energy, but as long as you can make H2 from a free source, like the sun is, what is the problem ? Even if

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Greg Harbican
You still run into H2 storage issues. You would have to spend days making H2 just to run the fireplace for a few of hrs. Why bother? It is more efficient to use the energy in another manor. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Alt.EnergyNetwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Biofuel] Biopower - was Re: On-farm biodiesel or ethanol

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
This is an extracxt taken from 'bio-power' news, a publication produced by www.bio-power.co.uk It makes some valid points in my opinion regarding the use of chemicals. I have mentioned this method of fuel production before on this list and got an overwhelming reply with negative comments on

RE: [Biofuel] human gene in rice

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Kirk. Oppss, a new chimera was born in the labs at Tsukuba, I remember there were many rice field around and inside that town. I hope they have already have tested and evaluated the eficiency of a control messures or pest for that kind of rice as the nature does for every living thing to

[Biofuel] Re: was- hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
threads discussing energy and fuel economy scams. Here's one message from Ed Service from 2001: To build a brown's Gas unit you make a device similar to a car battery with multiple stainless steel plates submerged in a tank filled with water. apply a direct current to the plates and the

Re: [Biofuel] Jelled ethanol with charcoal and cellulose:solid biofuel

2005-04-26 Thread Keith Addison
Greeting Keith Even though we spend several hours of search in Internet about gelled fuel, we are not able to find any information about the use of the cellulose , but which have been reported to be very successful. Thank you Keith bringing here real practical

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
Hi Greg, You are right. When one starts thinking about their idea a bit more in depth, it sounds kind of silly. Maybe they hope to market it to people who want to see themselves as environmentally responsable while still being able to drive their gas hogs regards tallex Alternate Energy

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Michael Redler
I don't see conflicting opinions. I just see different motives. Agreed; H2 via electrolysis is not efficient by most comparisons. But, since when is a fireplace anyone's first choice for an efficient means of heating a home? Yet millions of people (including myself and other environmentally

Re: [Biofuel] Methanol vs Petrol

2005-04-26 Thread Jan Warnqvist
Hello Paul. As you probably know, methanol is used as fuel in speedway, with motorcycle engines for that fuel. Methanol in gasoline engines will cause: 1. Incompletely burned ethanol forms formic acid, which is aggressive to the engine oil and material. 2. During cold start operation the exhaust

[Biofuel] radioactive -was hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Alt.EnergyNetwork
Hello JD2005, can you give me some information. What is this radioactive material that they(who?) are putting in washing powder. Also how does this material disasociate water or make clothes dry faster? thanks for your reply regards tallex Alternate Energy Resource Network 1000+ news

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread bob allen
JD2005 wrote: I do not agree with the utilisation of water to get wasser stoff (hydrogen) but it is possible to dissociate water with radioactive material such as they are putting in washing power these days to make laundry dry more quickly. JD2005 - Original Message - From: bob

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Tallex, If you think this is silly, you just wait, I heard that they will start to use it in cars also. LOL Hakan At 07:48 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote: Hi Greg, You are right. When one starts thinking about their idea a bit more in depth, it sounds kind of silly. Maybe they hope to market it

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread dwoodard
I understand that hydrogen flames are pale, hard to see, and emit much less radiative heat than flames from the combustion of carbon and its compounds. I don't think a hydrogen fireplace would satisfy those who wanted a fireplace for the colour and play of its flames and the radiated heat. In a

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread robert luis rabello
I don't see conflicting opinions. I just see different motives. Agreed; H2 via electrolysis is not efficient by most comparisons. But, since when is a fireplace anyone's first choice for an efficient means of heating a home? Yet millions of people (including myself and other environmentally

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread Hakan Falk
Mike, At 07:56 PM 4/26/2005, you wrote: I don't see conflicting opinions. I just see different motives. Agreed; H2 via electrolysis is not efficient by most comparisons. But, since when is a fireplace anyone's first choice for an efficient means of heating a home? Yet millions of people

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread bob allen
invisible. Instead gather around a nice red nichrome wire. Michael Redler wrote: I don't see conflicting opinions. I just see different motives. Agreed; H2 via electrolysis is not efficient by most comparisons. But, since when is a fireplace anyone's first choice for an efficient means of

Re: [Biofuel] Re: hydrogen fire place

2005-04-26 Thread JD2005
I do not agree with the utilisation of water to get wasser stoff (hydrogen) but it is possible to dissociate water with radioactive material such as they are putting in washing power these days to make laundry dry more quickly. JD2005 - Original Message - From: bob allen I guess if you

[Biofuel] Changfa diesel generator

2005-04-26 Thread JD2005
Anybody know how to sound proof a Changfa diesel generator? JD2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at