Hello Ken,
Appreciate your input.
(Just a quick summary in case anyone else is listening.)
While denatured ethanol may be used on the premises where it was produced,
it must be denatured for transport or use in vehicles off premises.
It seems that BD would not render the
universal health care, unlike in the USA where it's every man/women for
his/her self.
JAMES PHELPS wrote:
Wow that’s almost 4 to one worse. Also how do Canada, Sweden and
Iceland do so well coming from the free world?
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*From:* bob allen mailto:[EMAIL
Hi Zeke,
You wrote: I think that a gas car would run fine on ethanol denatured
with either biodiesel or methanol.
Two questions:
1. I have heard/read from what I consider to be reliable sources that gas cars
can be converted to run fine on 80 - 85% ethanol (15 - 20% water).
Hi Tom;
Yes you got the idea I am thinking about. I worked a bit on the setup
last night. I've got some old pinot noir I made a few years back (
which is a difficult grape at the best of times) which is a bout a
on the dryness scale. I'll take a bottle or two and put it in a flask
Kerosene works. It is neutral in the reaction and can be separated later by
freezing the bio. (If you would want to??)
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Go gettem Joe! we all wait a shivers for your results!
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Hi Tom;
Yes you got the idea I am
Jim,
I could live with 2% kerosene in the ethanol.
Tom
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I guess another question would be how this relates to freedom? And why is
it the richest country in the world cannot come up with universal health
care.
On another beat, what was that saying on the statue of liberty? I wonder if
that will have to be revisited concerning our new fence in the
economically?
http://renu.citizenre.com/
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What? Luxembourg doesn't have universal healthcare?
JAMES PHELPS wrote:
I guess another question would be how this relates to freedom? And
why is it the richest country in the world cannot come up with
universal health care.
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Just to add some food for thought here on this subject.
If you build the engine for the fuel type you will get top performance. this
performance may even exceed the performance of a similar engine designed to
run on unleaded. Where all the problems come from is trying to run anengine
snicker snicker snicker, OK specificaly the USA ( richest country in the
world is a quote from a Canadian I met)
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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006
Hello everyone!
I talked my sweetheart into renting An Inconvenient Truth over the
weekend. She finds it hard to sit through all of the science, but my
boys were pretty interested throughout the film. We've had a very
strange year, weather-wise, in this area. Back in January, we had the
Hmm, seems to be going backwards as far as water usage, comfort and
appearance. Well to each his own lol
Jim
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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2006
inexpensive and large spray pattern
JAMES PHELPS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, seems to be going backwards as
far as water usage, comfort and
appearance. Well to each his own lol
Jim
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Buckle up Dorothy cuz Kansas is goin bye bye...-cipher
robert and benita rabello wrote:
Hello everyone!
I talked my sweetheart into renting An Inconvenient Truth over
the weekend. She finds it hard to sit through all of the science, but
my boys were pretty interested throughout the
By the way the Movie Inconvienent Truth is a good flick and well done.
But from what I have seen and heard in the news NPR - Grist etc - So much
new information is available, however this new info just confirms the movie
- only at a bit faster pace than what was thought before. (ice Caps and
Hi Bob,
Why not compare apples with apples? If we really want to
inform ourselves shouldn't we be comparing what it is in various western
democracies that produces such important health statistics? Patting
ourselves on the back for having better infant mortality rates than third
You must not have read his reply to me, he did just that, and he was not
compairing any thing as far as I could tell just pointing out a mis
information in another post.
Jim
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Howdy Bob, I certainly didn't mean to imply that our health care system
is better than others. I offered up the statistics only to correct a
statement made by another. Personally I am embarrassed by the poor
overall state of health care in the USA and as I mentioned in another
post, it is
Not sure... In California it's pretty easy, because the simple payback time
is only 5 to 8 years -- just do a 15 or 20 year financing of that, and it
works at realistic interest rates. However, in Colorado, even with the
rebates and incentives, we're still around a 15 or 20 year payback, which
Just don't use off road ( red) #1 or #2. less than 1% will result in a dark
pink color for the entire batch. If #2 ULSD were used, you would gain a few
btu's.
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To:
most gasoline powered cars run at 8+ any more, so a true flex fuel vehicle
(similar to the aforementioned 2 1/2 ton hauler) could be made from existing
parts, its just the fuel feed adjustments that would give you problems. a
computer would have to be built and programmed with multiple feedback
Who gets riich when they build this new fence? And is there going to be one on the northern borders as well?
Fences are meant to keep people/animals in or keep people/animals out? Just asking...
I thought Al Gore's comment in "An Inconvenient Truth" about terrorism vs the environment (and I
maybe we ought to re-define what is meant by rich? what is wealth after all if you do not share it? And the Americans do! what is wealth if you do not have your health, but a huge burden?
From:"JAMES PHELPS" [EMAIL
unfortunately no one is making the policy makers waitch this movie. it is largely preaching to the converted. realist or pessimist,the both still bleed.
From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgTo: biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSubject: [Biofuel] Weird
bob allen wrote:
Clinton had an initiative to move towards universal health care at the
beginning of his first term, but the proposal went no where. Costs
continue to rise while more and more are left without insurance. Maybe
with our ever so slight lurch to the left, we may see some
On Nov 27, 2006, at 5:16 AM, Thomas Kelly wrote:
Can ethanol be denatured and still be used to make ethyl esters?
Yes. I've used standard paint store denatured ethanol (hardware stores
rarely have anhydrous) with methanol and methyl isobutyl ketone as
denaturants with no problems. As
I'm still here D
Funny how history repeats itself or stays the same
Really it's a bit pointless teaching history in schools
as nobody seems to learn from it
Leo
D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bob. Good input!!! I put
that hoax article out there to see what the reponse
good to find americans that can laugh at themselves
Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HA HA HA!!! oh man! this is
really funny. and the jabs at americans are totally true... (BTW i am american
sad to say)
Jason
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Fred Oliff wrote:
Who gets riich when they build this new fence?
Some company affiliated with congressmen and senators.
And is there going to be one on the northern borders as well?
Yes. This has been a topic of derision among people in BC for the
last several weeks. I have a
Robert,
I read your post and then the following from an e-mail:
More and more polar bear cubs are dying off on Alaska's northern coast,
according to a government study released earlier this month .
In fact, of polar bears studied between 1990 and last spring, only 25 cubs
per 100
You'd think the Canadians would put up their own fence!
robert and benita rabello wrote:
Fred Oliff wrote:
Who gets riich when they build this new fence?
Some company affiliated with congressmen and senators.
And is there going to be one on the northern borders as well?
I would hope that Canada annexes Minnesota before building the fence!
On 11/27/06, Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You'd think the Canadians would put up their own fence!
robert and benita rabello wrote:
Fred Oliff wrote:
Who gets riich when they build this new fence?
Some
i dont find my country amusing, and -with exceptions- am not proud of its
people. it is rather deplorable if you ask me. horrors abroad, idiocy at home,
and noone willing to stand up and say HEY DUMBASS! YOU GOT IT WRONG! GO FIX
IT! and make some real changes for the better. believe me ive been
I know how you feel
all we can do is keep going down the right track and not join them
Jason Katie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i dont find my country amusing, and
-with exceptions- am not proud of its people. it is rather deplorable if you
ask me. horrors abroad, idiocy at home, and noone
In the United States that I live in good intentions pave the path to hell.
Good intentions created:
Social Security - A system that was designed to allow a better retirement for
each generation that followed. Such a good idea and it got off to a good
start, but now my generation is going to
Thomas,
Thought I'd chip in. Icebergs larger than ocean liners were
sighted off the port of Dunedin, New Zealand, last week, well north of the
Roaring Forties, barely five weeks before mid-summer. The sight was so unusual
that tour operators offered chopper flights to over
Hi Fred,
Did I read you right? That Americans share their wealth?
Examples please,
Regards,
Bob.
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From: Fred Oliff
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Great Thanksgiving Hoax
yeah, a wealth of full metal jacket .223's.
Jason
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From: Bob Molloy
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Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Great Thanksgiving Hoax
Hi Fred,
Hi Leo,
Right on! History as written in books is largely either incomplete or
wrong, sometimes
intentionally so. I wonder how two historians, one leaning to the right and
the other leaning to the
left, will record the history of the Bush/Cheney administration.
Peace, D. Mindock
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