Re: [biofuels-biz] Emulsion fuels

2001-08-03 Thread F. Marc de Piolenc
I could not have told you that, because I didn't know that until I learned it from your message, below! Perhaps a message in which somebody else's post was quoted? Interesting, though... Marc de Piolenc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc de Piolenc told me last year that emulsified fuels can

[biofuels-biz] Re:NIR

2001-08-03 Thread Wooly .
Camillo Or are you using it successfully at present? No, I'm not using it at all. Just following up on Keith's enquiry as to whether I'd found anything on NIR whilst looking for something else. If you've proven it unuseful for the present thats a shame. On what basis? Steve

AW: [biofuels-biz] Re:NIR

2001-08-03 Thread Camillo.Holecek
Again: Please go to any (sophisticated!) lab equipment shop and ask them to provide you with a complete solution for analysing BD to quality standard using NIR. THEN you will probably be able to grasp my point. Camillo Holecek -UrsprŸngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] t.com

AW: AW: AW: [biofuels-biz] NIR

2001-08-03 Thread Camillo.Holecek
GC is a prooven lab method, one can by it from the (lab equipment shop) shelf, and it is the method required by the various national quality standards for testing many of the quality parameters of BD. NIR for BD is not developed, not calibrated, not understandable exept for a few academic

AW: [biofuels-biz] Re: Biodiesel Production

2001-08-03 Thread Camillo.Holecek
Austrian standard ON C 1191 requires 0/-15 centigrade (summer/winter) DIN E 51606 requires 0/-20 The proposed CEN standard defines climate zones and gives five classes, non of them above -20 for winter quality. VW is making a hell of an issue about CFPP right now, claiming it causes them resent

RE: [biofuels-biz] Re: Biodiesel Production

2001-08-03 Thread Peter Krasinski
Thank you for the Austrian Din Standard. I will forward your question to Mr. Berry. I will be traveling for the next two weeks and look forward to re-joining the group upon my return. Regards to all, Peter Krasinski OAE PS: We concur QC will be of the utmost importance to the growth and

Re: [biofuels-biz] NIR

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
GC is a prooven lab method, one can by it from the (lab equipment shop) shelf, and it is the method required by the various national quality standards for testing many of the quality parameters of BD. NIR for BD is not developed, not calibrated, not understandable exept for a few academic

Re: AW: [biofuels-biz] Re:NIR

2001-08-03 Thread Wooly .
Camillo I was taught to have all the equipment and elements required be fully prepared before starting the experiment. Additionally business has taught me to explore all options before even spending my lunch money on equipment. The moral of the story being, there is ALWAYS time (or time MUST

[biofuels-biz] Re: [Fwd: [biofuel] Production]

2001-08-03 Thread gjkimlin
Hi Steve and welcome, I don't believe that you would need to degum first, but you may need to dry the black oil by heating. Don't be heavy handed on the caustic and you should be OK. A local natural soap maker would value your impure glycerol, caustic and all- try to get enough for it to at

[biofuels-biz] what standards ???

2001-08-03 Thread Dick Carlstein
i find all this carrying on about biodiesel standards and quality (or lack of) somewhat thick. if only we would apply the same self-righteous rigid thinking to fossil diesel, we would soon find that standards can be so farapart as to make usa diesel, for example, illegal in japan, or

Re: [biofuel] Re: Isopropyl alcohol

2001-08-03 Thread Paul Gobert
- Original Message - From: Aleksander lt;kac [EMAIL PROTECTED] vfd What are the problems to be encountered when using isopropanol? Acid based reactions work with all alcohols, base catalyzed reactions seem to be picky. Aleks, out of curiosity I had a go at trying to make Bd from

RE: [biofuel] My one and only comment on the nuclear fracas

2001-08-03 Thread kirk
That is what burned (RTG). Magnesium frame caught fire and it went to blazes from there. Nothing is idiot proof. Kirk -Original Message- From: Alan S. Petrillo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:15 PM To: biofuel Subject: [biofuel] My one and only comment on the

[biofuel] Re: Hemp in America

2001-08-03 Thread r . garrod
I was aware that there were/are some fairly stringent regulations, but I heard that there has been a very recent decision that has completely dashed any hopes of a relaxation. Does anyone have any further information? Or is this an erroneous piece of information? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED],

[biofuel] Re: Isopropyl alcohol

2001-08-03 Thread Aleksander lt;kac
Paul, snip Very hard to dissolve NaOH, would KOH dissolve better. Had to almost boil the isopropyl before NaOH would dissolve. On cooling the mixture solidified. Tried using conc aqueous solution of NaOH but as it was poured into isopropanol it the NaOH precipitated out. Yepp. That's the

Re: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol.

2001-08-03 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: Re: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol. Keith, A while ago (less than 50 days) I posted an letter on zeolites entitled 'Back to zeolites'. I

Re: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol.

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: Re: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol. Keith, A while ago (less than 50 days) I posted an letter on zeolites entitled 'Back to zeolites'. I

Re: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol.

2001-08-03 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol. I require details of molecular sieves for dehydration of Ethnaol. If feedstock has a concnetration around

Re: [biofuel] home

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Ed ..and then there is this one, that you can also live in...even more practical, eh wot? Comes complete with biodiesel oil furnace for those chilly nights, a biodiesel lantern for light, and a biodiesel stove for cooking. http://www.oldwoodies.com/img/rv/20_ford_rvconversion.jpg Well,

Re: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol.

2001-08-03 Thread JOSEPH . MARTELLE
Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc: Joseph Martelle/US/GM/GMC) Subject: Re: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol. Thanks Keith. Kazi, Look at posting 7110 (below). I also sent another note before Keith sent this one so

Re: [biofuel] Re: Hemp in America

2001-08-03 Thread Harmon Seaver
I don't have a cite for it, but the DEA announced it's intention to begin treating most hemp products --- definitely oil and food, not sure about fiber -- as the same as marijuana. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was aware that there were/are some fairly stringent regulations, but I heard

Re: [biofuel]Production[FW: Expeller and Filter Press]

2001-08-03 Thread Steven Hobbs
Hanns, thanks for the info. I will send them an email and find out more Thanks Steven Hanns B. Wetzel wrote: To Steven Hobbs, I recently obtained quotes from several suppliers for oil expelling equipment for copra. The alse use it for seeds both cold pressed and cooked. You might like to

[biofuel]

2001-08-03 Thread Crabb, David
since diesels dont have emmissions tests... can a take say ... a suzuki sidekick.. and put a diesel in it? ignore the issues of tranplanting it just a matter of are you allowed to do that? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Small business owners...

[biofuel] International Renewable Energy Agency

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
Anyone interested in this issue should join Pedro's group: Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List url: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nuclear-fossil-dangers That's not to say you can't discuss it here too! Best Keith Addison Journey to

Re: [biofuel]

2001-08-03 Thread Harmon Seaver
Here's an URL for it: http://www.keltec.com/hardware/suzuki.html Whether or not you would be allowed depends on which state you live in. In most states (US), people can put any engine in whatever. Crabb, David wrote: since diesels dont have emmissions tests... can a take say ... a

[biofuel] Biodiesel Bulletin

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
BIODIESEL BULLETIN A Monthly Newsletter of the National Biodiesel Board July 31, 2001 Headlines: á Cincinnati Switches City Buses to Biodiesel á Biodiesel Available in Public Pump in Maine á USDA Economic Study Shows Positive Effect of Soy-Based Fuel á USDA to Hold

US DEA's Proposed Hemp Regs was Re: [biofuel] Re: Hemp in America

2001-08-03 Thread Appal Energy
Harmon and all interested, The text of the US DEA's proposed regs which will essentially classify all hemp seed, hemp oil and hemp meal products as marihuana, can be found at http://www.hempembargo.com/ http://www.hempembargo.com/PropReg022501.html All derivatives from these products,

[biofuel] how would you argue?

2001-08-03 Thread Asil
how would you argue, if you want to make clear that biofuel is something good? i know that it is really ok, but just wanted to know if there are other arguments which project positive influence on biofuel.. thanks for your ideas asil Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

Re: [biofuel] Hemp in America

2001-08-03 Thread L Miller
Yes. Ever since DuPont wanted a monopoly for his new synthetic rope for military contracts. Needing more rope for politicians necks ever since. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 08:19:50 - To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Hemp in

Re: [biofuel] how would you argue?

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
how would you argue, if you want to make clear that biofuel is something good? i know that it is really ok, but just wanted to know if there are other arguments which project positive influence on biofuel.. thanks for your ideas asil Hi Asil I think you'll find most of the arguments here,

Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Pip J. Patton
I was more worried about lubrication than cumbustion. I tried about 6 or 7 cups of biodiesel mixed with about 2 gallons of 2 cycle gasoline. It works, but starts harder. Seems to have more power. So far the pistons haven't frozen in the cylinders. ;-) Unfortunately, the spark plugs

Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Pip J. Patton
Do you know how much biodiesel will take the place of 2 cycle oil? On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:00:19 -0700 Edward Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That's right. It is Ok to use certain vegetable oil products and veg oil/biodiesel blends for the two stroke lube, to replace the oil, and the

Re: [biofuel] Molecualar sieves and dehydration of Alcohol.

2001-08-03 Thread Abdul Hamid
Dear Keith, Yes, I got it. Thank you very much for your kindness. But if you have more data or study available on the interent, please send it to me. Kazi. --- Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please respond to biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com cc:(bcc:

Re: [biofuel] Hemp in America

2001-08-03 Thread jerry dycus
Hi Steve and All, In 10 or so states it's legal now for industral hemp. Most of these states allow medical marijauna too. The Feds are still pissed about it though. But it's hard to make a federal case from something that the states say is legalin their state. Let's

[biofuel] RE: My one and only comment on the nuclear fracas

2001-08-03 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is what burned (RTG). Magnesium frame caught fire and it went to blazes from there. Given the design of the things, I'd bet the plutonium stayed in the incinerator. It probably left as pellets in the ash when the ash was collected and disposed of. Even

[biofuel] Re: Power plants kill you

2001-08-03 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the first commercial slogans of nuclear industries back in the 50's was Energy too cheap to meter. I remember seeing old newsreels about that. My first reaction was Yeah, right! Like _that'll_ ever happen! Power companies give up proffit? Not

Re: [biofuel] RE: My one and only comment on the nuclear fracas

2001-08-03 Thread kirk
Someone managed to get a cable on it and drug it out the bay door. It sat on the parking apron and burned. Fire dept watched it burn for a half hour until someone arrived with equipment. Plutonium burns quite well. Like I said-- 50,000 lung cancers at least. Oh well. I have a friend who is

Re: [biofuel] Hemp in America

2001-08-03 Thread steve spence
if you try growing it, the feds will still raid you and put you in jail. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.com Palm Pilot Pages - http://www.webconx.com/palm X10 Home Automation -

[biofuel] RE: My one and only comment on the nuclear fracas

2001-08-03 Thread Alan S. Petrillo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [incinerated RTG] Someone managed to get a cable on it and drug it out the bay door. It sat on the parking apron and burned. Fire dept watched it burn for a half hour until someone arrived with equipment. It goes back to what I said about human error, and what

Biodiesel and 2-strokes = was Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
Pip J. Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you know how much biodiesel will take the place of 2 cycle oil? I'd also like to know that. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Tokyo http://journeytoforever.org/ On Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:00:19 -0700 Edward Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Biodiesel in gasoline engines Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't such a far-fetched idea. Quite a few tractors and other machines were designed to run on kerosene. My BCS garden tractor, for instance, has the exact same engine, except for carb and tank, as their kerosene model. The way it's done is that

Re: [biofuel] RE: My one and only comment on the nuclear fracas

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
Someone managed to get a cable on it and drug it out the bay door. It sat on the parking apron and burned. Fire dept watched it burn for a half hour until someone arrived with equipment. Plutonium burns quite well. Like I said-- 50,000 lung cancers at least. Oh well. I have a friend who is

Re: Biodiesel in gasoline engines Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Harmon Seaver
Looking at the parts book for my tractor, I see there's only three parts different. The tank, of course, and the carb (although only difference in the carb are the jets) and a hotter spark plug. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home 920-233-5820

Re: Biodiesel and 2-strokes = was Re: [biofuel] (unknown)

2001-08-03 Thread Harmon Seaver
Not sure how you'd figure it -- biodiesel is supposed to give better lube already, but quite a few people who run diesels are in the habit of adding 2-cycle oil to their dinodiesel for extra lube. Or one of the more expensive commercial fuel additives. Keith Addison wrote: Pip J. Patton

RE: [biofuel] RE: My one and only comment on the nuclear fracas

2001-08-03 Thread kirk
Wasn't in an incinerator. Was being tested and caught fire. They got it out of the building but that's all. I did not examine the debris. I only heard comments about over a pound of missing plutonium. Accidents happen. But to coverup on such a scale and to deny culpability when you have damaged

[biofuel] Smokey

2001-08-03 Thread kirk
The official dogma is money heals all. The legal system is based on it. Smokey was an above ground test in Nevada. My friend worked in films. I forget the military name for it but they filmed tests and such. He had a hot date in LA so while everyone went to mess he put everything in boxes and

[biofuel] Asia to import less fuel oil as demand stagnates

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.planetark.org/dailynewsstory.cfm?newsid=11858 Planet Ark Asia to import less fuel oil as demand stagnates SINGAPORE: August 1, 2001 SINGAPORE - Asia's appetite for fuel oil imports will wane in the next four years as rising regional supplies outpace crawling growth in demand,

[biofuel] Fuel Economy Website Offers One Stop Auto Information

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
http://ens-news.com/ens/jul2001/2001L-07-31-09.html Environment News Service: AmeriScan: July 31, 2001 Fuel Economy Website Offers One Stop Auto Information WASHINGTON, DC, July 31, 2001 (ENS) - Consumers have a new and improved on-line tool to help them select the perfect vehicle. The U.S.

[biofuel] Worst polluters not targeted in vehicle inspection programs

2001-08-03 Thread Keith Addison
http://enn.com/news/enn-stories/2001/08/08022001/polluters_44513.asp Worst polluters not targeted in vehicle inspection programs Thursday, August 02, 2001 By Environmental News Network Ford Taurus' emissions are tested on a chassis dynamometer at the National Renewable Energy Lab. Smog