Re: [biofuels-biz] questions from New Zealand

2003-03-25 Thread Michael Allen
Dear Chanti and Prof. AK, So pleased to hear that you both enjoyed New Zealand! Perhaps you could ask your friendly pig farmer to contact me so I can put him in touch with biodiesels and universities who are active in New Zealand at present. Because New Zealand is the largest manufacture of

Re: [biofuels-biz] What are the Legal ramifications in Australia

2003-03-25 Thread Jess
If you are looking at just buying Methanol, BP has it. I used to buy it in 20 litre drums to mix with water for an injection system for a Mitsubishi Sigma 2.6 Litre Turbo. But I am looking for the legalities of distilling my own Ethanol. Jess - Original Message - From: Barry Lewis

[biofuels-biz] Local economies

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
This surely applies equally to local, community-level biofuels and energy production as opposed to big, centralized production - small is beautiful and represents a viable, sustainable future, big/central/top-down has its place but should stop acting like a dinosaur or suffer the same fate.

Re: [biofuels-biz] What are the Legal ramifications in Australia

2003-03-25 Thread Barry Lewis
G'day Jess, Yep!! Just got hold of BP in Gladstone, then the retailer in the Tweed area and he sells Methanol in 20 lt drums for AUD 44.50 (plus freight of course!) that is the best I can do at the moment. I certainly got a run around. Seems they really only want to sell it to hotrodders

[biofuels-biz] James Woolsey Biofuel Interview, Part 2 (Conclusion)

2003-03-25 Thread murdoch
This has been one of my favorite all-time evworld.com interviews. I thought that the interview subject made many unusually direct-to-the-debate points. Furthermore, he seemed able to keep focused on the alt-fuel issue and the political ties to it, and to acknowledge the extremely wide variety

Re: [biofuels-biz] Biofuel business in developing countries.

2003-03-25 Thread Levent Yuceer
Hello Hakan, I have read your article biofuel business in developing countries with great interest. Thank you for considering developing countries. I am an organic chemistry professor from Turkey. (Although Turkey is now considered as an industrialised country but I am not so sure) I have

[biofuels-biz] (fwd) EVs vs. High-mileage-hybrids with some ethanol mixed in

2003-03-25 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:57:51 -0800 (PST), Bruce EVangel Parmenter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: EVLN(Toyota sez Electric-only vehicles are too much hassle) [The Internet Electric Vehicle List News. For Public EV informational purposes. Contact publication for reprint rights.] --- {EVangel}

[biofuels-biz] Re: James Woolsey Biofuel Interview, Part 2 (Conclusion)

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM This has been one of my favorite all-time evworld.com interviews. I thought that the interview subject made many unusually direct-to-the-debate points. Furthermore, he seemed able to keep focused on the alt-fuel issue and the political ties to it, and to acknowledge the extremely wide

[biofuels-biz] Trends in New Crops and New Uses

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/pdf/default.html Trends in New Crops and New Uses Proceedings of the fifth National Symposium New Crops and New Uses Strength in Diversity Links to pdf files. CONTENTS 1. New Crops and Bio-based Products 2. International New Crop

[biofuels-biz] Hemp and Methanol

2003-03-25 Thread Doug Allbright
Someone posted a note a while back about hemp being able to produce 1,000 gallons of methanol per acre. I was wondering what country would be the best place to grow hemp in, for both the climate and cost of land. Oh yah the legality as well Thanks Doug Allbright [EMAIL PROTECTED] Microsoft

Re: [biofuels-biz] Hemp and Methanol

2003-03-25 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Ethanol. Canada allows production of hemp. see this link: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15143 Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 10:12 AM, Doug Allbright wrote: Someone posted a note a while back about hemp being able to produce 1,000

Re: [biofuels-biz] Hemp and Methanol

2003-03-25 Thread Appal Energy
Approximately 100 gallons per ton of feedstock. That would give between 500-1,000 gallons per acre of hemp depending upon the farming practice, after any oils were recovered. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Doug Allbright [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com

RE: [biofuels-biz] Hemp and Methanol

2003-03-25 Thread Doug Allbright
Todd Thanks for the info, could you point me to some documentation or site that confirm that. I don't doubt you for a second, and that seems to be the general consensus but I am building business plan and need more info. Thanks Doug -Original Message- From: Appal Energy

Re: [biofuels-biz] Hemp and Methanol

2003-03-25 Thread Appal Energy
You could do a search for pyrolysis or wood gasification conversion. Calculating feedstock conversion ratios, stoichiometric or real world, is not exactly my area of expertise. The numbers I derived are based upon the real life yields of Canadian hemp farmers, dependant upon the end product

RE: [biofuels-biz] Hemp and Methanol

2003-03-25 Thread Doug Allbright
Todd Thanks again, thats a great place for me to start researching. hehe even though I can't pronounce one of those words. -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 10:22 PM To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

[biofuels-biz] australia ethanol news

2003-03-25 Thread murdoch
Wednesday March 26, 03:14 PM Vic set for mandatory ethanol labelling The Victorian government announced the state would be the first in Australia to introduce mandatory labelling of ethanol content in fuel. Victorian Consumer Affairs Minister John Lenders said that from May 1, petrol

Re: [biofuel] Various Diesels and Waste Veggie Oil

2003-03-25 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Steve: You asked for an answer on this once before, I missed reading your query until the moment had already passed - so here is my opinion on what needs to be shown, to really show that the TDI's are fine on SVO, no matter how you do it... Ten TDI's, 250,000 km+, no more than one

Re: [biofuel] Banning Paul

2003-03-25 Thread Hakan Falk
Ken, It will pass Ken, this about the war etc.. The problem is that as discussion list, we are a very mixed bunch of people that have a strong interest together. The interest for biofuels is in its nature a social interest at the moment. You must have a very high degree of enthusiasm to be able

RE: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread filip.ponsaerts
To my understanding this is what's used in large windmills generating electricity. Filip Actually, there WAS an AC generator which generated a constant 60Hz output in spite of varying RPM input. It did this with a rewritable rotor. Curtis Get your free newsletter at

Re: [biofuel] Banning Paul

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hakan, I understand, but I am concerned Keith's belligerence is undermining his own position and arguments re the belligerents, Blair Bush. sauce for the goose etc. Ken Yes, yes, Ken, but you're only bothered by my alleged belligerence because you decided to do a little trolling for your own

Re: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
Sorry, I wasn't sure if it's what you wanted. (LOL) There was a generator someone made a few years back. I think it was developed by some guy named Roesel() ... or something like that. 'K, now don't all jump me with that can't work!! cause it's only how *I* understand how it works (I

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: [biofuels-biz] questions from New Zealand

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
Cross-post. From: Michael Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 21:02:27 +1200 Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] questions from New Zealand Reply-To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Dear Chanti and Prof. AK, So pleased to hear that you both enjoyed New Zealand! Perhaps you could ask your

[biofuel] Local economies

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
This surely applies equally to local, community-level biofuels and energy production as opposed to big, centralized production - small is beautiful and represents a viable, sustainable future, big/central/top-down has its place but should stop acting like a dinosaur or suffer the same fate.

[biofuel] James Woolsey Biofuel Interview, Part 2 (Conclusion)

2003-03-25 Thread murdoch
This has been one of my favorite all-time evworld.com interviews. I thought that the interview subject made many unusually direct-to-the-debate points. Furthermore, he seemed able to keep focused on the alt-fuel issue and the political ties to it, and to acknowledge the extremely wide variety

Re: [biofuel] Various Diesels and Waste Veggie Oil

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Spence
I have no experience with that engine. All the tests and experience's we have had, and those of our RD team at Greasel, indicate there are no concerns with DI engines. This is after much discussion with injector pump manufacturers, combustion professionals, and engine designers. The key is

Re: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Spence
sounds like a synchronous ac motor. never heard it called a rewritable. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: filip.ponsaerts [EMAIL

Re: [biofuel] A biofuels question (sort of)

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Spence
we use wood heat in the winter, and solar heat in the summer to heat water. see http://ww2.green-trust.org:8383/2003/fireandwater.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-25 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 3/25/03 1:06:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..I'm ALL for our Armed Forces using Bio-fuels, I talk about it all the time. I think about 98% of our Vehicles ARE diesel or Kero(air) powered. I think only the civilian

[biofuel] Re: James Woolsey Biofuel Interview, Part 2 (Conclusion)

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM This has been one of my favorite all-time evworld.com interviews. I thought that the interview subject made many unusually direct-to-the-debate points. Furthermore, he seemed able to keep focused on the alt-fuel issue and the political ties to it, and to acknowledge the extremely wide

[biofuel] Trends in New Crops and New Uses

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/pdf/default.html Trends in New Crops and New Uses Proceedings of the fifth National Symposium New Crops and New Uses Strength in Diversity Links to pdf files. CONTENTS 1. New Crops and Bio-based Products 2. International New Crop

[biofuel] Fwd: Re: Biofuel business in developing countries.

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
Cross-post. To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com From: mauro_knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 04:10:22 - Subject: [biofuels-biz] Re: Biofuel business in developing countries. Hello Hakan: I«m working with biodiesel in Argentina, and after read your articule I have to say that

[biofuel] Re: Biofuel business in developing countries.

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
Cross-post. To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com From: Levent Yuceer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 15:09:01 +0200 Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Biofuel business in developing countries. Hello Hakan, I have read your article biofuel business in developing countries with great interest.

Re: [biofuel] Trends in New Crops and New Uses

2003-03-25 Thread Ken Provost
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 09:33 AM, Keith Addison wrote: http://www.hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/ncnu02/pdf/default.html Trends in New Crops and New Uses Proceedings of the fifth National Symposium Wow, thanks for posting this link,Keith -- this will keep me busy for weeks! -K

[biofuel] zero emissions engine (maybe for real?)

2003-03-25 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
zero might be a stretch, but still... http://www.iav.de/IAV_Internet/News/media/MTZpdf/zee_e.pdf seems a good candidate for SVO/WVO/PPO. Edward Beggs http://www.biofuels.ca Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Your own Online Store Selling our Overstock.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Retrieving the gold...

2003-03-25 Thread exotyone
In a message dated 2/25/03 7:19:15 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pumping coldish WVo with a dc pump is one of the most complicated things I've found about this process. I just gave up and I use something plastic as a pitcher to scoop the stuff. more recently I've

[biofuel] Anybody Using This First Amendment? - Greg Palast

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15404 Anybody Using This First Amendment? By Eric Bosse, AlterNet March 17, 2003 American investigative reporter Greg Palast writes for the London Observer and reports for BBC news. His stories have appeared in the annual Project Censored lists but

[biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
The face of Iraqi suffering Robert Fisk toured a Baghdad hospital the day after the bombing. He writes in the Independent (U.K.), There is something sick, obscene about these hospital visits. We bomb. They suffer. Then we turn up and take pictures of their wounded children. Read about

Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer

2003-03-25 Thread Ken Basterfield
What was just as obscene was the crush of reporters rushing and pushing along the corridors of the hospital to get their own 'scoop' Explain why there has to be at least 30 of these vultures, don't they trust each? Have they no feelings for the victims? Couldn't they just send in one

Re: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread Ken Basterfield
Kirk, can you give some more detail please Ken - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:18 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Electric generators You can modulate (electrically rotate) the field so mechanical relationship is

Re: [biofuel] Re: James Woolsey Biofuel Interview, Part 2 (Conclusion)

2003-03-25 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM A major reservation I have with this whole line of thought is the demonizing of the Middle East, and especially Saudi Arabia, because of the US dependence on their oil. What this thinking leaves out, evades, is that it's highly unlikely that Saudi Arabia would be the repressive place

Re: [biofuel] Banning Paul

2003-03-25 Thread Ken Basterfield
Hakan, thanks, you are such a reassuring voice in this wilderness. The enquiry about the submarine U234 which was supposed to deliver war materials and plans to the japanese after the German capitulation and which was surrendered to the Americans on the ceasefire touched me for a number of

RE: [biofuel] zero emissions engine (maybe for real?)

2003-03-25 Thread Bryan Brah
What about Carroll Shelby's new project? http://www.ox2engine.com/home.htm -BRAH -Original Message- From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] zero emissions

Re: [biofuel] zero emissions engine (maybe for real?)

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Spence
fascinating. can't wait for more info. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bryan Brah [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL

RE: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread kirk
The first time I saw this it was used as an interim power supply until a diesel generator could be fired up and switched in. A massive flywheel supplied the interim power and of course speed was constantly decelerating. It is not a backyard get em going type thing. Electronics are involved. The

Re: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread martin
Not to mention sounding very complicated and expensive. kirk wrote: The first time I saw this it was used as an interim power supply until a diesel generator could be fired up and switched in. A massive flywheel supplied the interim power and of course speed was constantly decelerating. It is

[biofuel] other fuel sources from waste... plastics.

2003-03-25 Thread paul van den bergen
Hi all, I used to be a PhD in the polymer blends area. I attended a seminar from Melb Uni Chem eng where they were exploring the posibility of converting polymer waste back to high Q feed stocks - methanol, acetone, alcohol, etc. often by pyrolysis. In our home the majority of the rubbish

Re: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread paul van den bergen
One idea I heard was to make windmills with the rotor stator on the rim rather than have the generator at the centre. (As explained to me) the trade off is as follows: the bigger the windmill, the greater the structureal efficiency (more power per structure, the lower the required wind speed

Re: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread paul van den bergen
seen the UPS flywheels? www.beakonpower.com I think... On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 08:36 am, kirk wrote: The first time I saw this it was used as an interim power supply until a diesel generator could be fired up and switched in. A massive flywheel supplied the interim power and of course speed was

Re: [biofuel] zero emissions engine (maybe for real?)

2003-03-25 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Yes, it certainly got my attention in a hurry, especially since I know a local fellow who has been at this for years, making steam engines of a more traditional type, building EV's etc, made a design for a steam powered bike (built and sold a bunch too), had a design for a

Re: [biofuel] (fwd) EVs vs. High-mileage-hybrids with some ethanol mixed in

2003-03-25 Thread paul van den bergen
metalic zinc as fuel... basically, you have a fuel cell that consumes zinc to produce electricity. At the fuel station you buy zinc by the kg, dump it in the tank, empty and refresh the old (zinc laden) acid and refill the acid tank... and go... No batteries, no mess, smaller engines I

[biofuel] the joy of dumpster diving...

2003-03-25 Thread paul van den bergen
well, today I did the only sensible thing,... I dove into the skip down stairs where tehy are refurbishing the eng building and scavenged 5 or 6 pieces of copper pipe - the longest about 3 m long. with a little annealing and shaping I should soon have a steam/water heated coil for oil

Re: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread jgnat1488
Could you elaborate more on the 3phase motors? I may have a line on an old 9hp 3phase motor and it is looking like i may be using the newly aquiered chevette for an angine and nothing else (can't find a tranny). My future plans are to be self sufficient for power and this is one way i may (and

Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer

2003-03-25 Thread Appal Energy
Maybe if the boob tube generation weren't glued to their sets, there wouldn't be such a frenzy to feed them. If you're one of those watching, then they're playing to you. Now which is more obscene? Don't the viewers have any feelings for the victims? Couldn't they just read the paper or get

Re: [biofuel] Anybody Using This First Amendment? - Greg Palast

2003-03-25 Thread murdoch
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 03:45:06 +0900, you wrote: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15404 Anybody Using This First Amendment? heck of an article. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty

Re: [biofuel] This is the reality of war. We bomb. They suffer

2003-03-25 Thread paul van den bergen
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:03 pm, Appal Energy wrote: Maybe if the boob tube generation weren't glued to their sets, there wouldn't be such a frenzy to feed them. If you're one of those watching, then they're playing to you. Now which is more obscene? Don't the viewers have any feelings for the

Re: [biofuel] other fuel sources from waste... plastics.

2003-03-25 Thread Appal Energy
Gasifiers have to be tuned, unless you're buying a top of the line computerized version at $30,000 or more US. To assist with tuning the unit, the feedstock must be kept relatively consistant, both in moisture content and type of feedstock. In theory rubbish could be shredded and mixed with the

Re: [biofuel] (fwd) EVs vs. High-mileage-hybrids with some ethanol mixed in

2003-03-25 Thread murdoch
Zinc plays a part in both an unconventional fuel cell (such as you say) and also in Zinc-Air batteries which have much longer range than many kinds, but always had problems trying to be conventional rechargeables (too easily oxidized?) and have to be rebuilt I guess in another approach. I know

Re: [biofuel] (fwd) EVs vs. High-mileage-hybrids with some ethanol mixed in

2003-03-25 Thread Steve Spence
I knew them when they were Electric Fuel http://www.arotech.com/index.html Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: http://www.green-trust.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: murdoch [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [biofuel] (fwd) EVs vs. High-mileage-hybrids with some ethanol mixed in

2003-03-25 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 22:01:08 -0500, you wrote: I knew them when they were Electric Fuel http://www.arotech.com/index.html Right: they were EFCX, now changed. In my mind I lump them with MHTX (methanol fuel cells, etc.) and MDTL (micro fuel cells) in their sort of New-York-Israel connection.

RE: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread kirk
Try http://www.catpower.co.jp/english/products/electric/ups.html -Original Message- From: paul van den bergen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 4:11 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Electric generators seen the UPS flywheels?

Re: [biofuel] Electric generators

2003-03-25 Thread bratt
Do you need a standard Chevette transmission? I have a five speed Chevette transmission, from a gas engined Chevette. Where are you located? I am in Regina, Sask. There is an interesting conversion of a 2 hp Induction motor taken off Taiwanese Mill into an alternator on a wind power plant

[biofuel] ethanol batteries

2003-03-25 Thread paul van den bergen
from /. http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns3539 -- Dr Paul van den Bergen Centre for Advanced Internet Architectures caia.swin.edu.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] IM:bulwynkl2002 It's a book. Non-volatile storage media. Everyone should have one. Yahoo! Groups

Re: [biofuel] the joy of dumpster diving...

2003-03-25 Thread bratt
There are some interesting fuel production plants using short pieces of copper pipe and other stuff at: http://www.homedistiller.org/types.htm#fraction EdB - Original Message - From: paul van den bergen To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:03 PM

[biofuel] Thought provoking?

2003-03-25 Thread Grahams
I do not know the author of this, so I do not even know if it is a true opinion or fiction. But it does sound plausible, I must admit I find it difficult to not find the everyday violence which is more common is non-western countries, somewhat horrifying. I taught a summer class last year

Re: [biofuel] Thought provoking?

2003-03-25 Thread Appal Energy
Plausible or not, peace is not won by dropping bombs without first exhausting all other remidies. Mr. Bush and his administration have fabricated pretext after pretext in the attempt to gain public and political support. This is almost certainly high amongst the reasons for protest around the

[biofuel] australia ethanol news

2003-03-25 Thread murdoch
Wednesday March 26, 03:14 PM Vic set for mandatory ethanol labelling The Victorian government announced the state would be the first in Australia to introduce mandatory labelling of ethanol content in fuel. Victorian Consumer Affairs Minister John Lenders said that from May 1, petrol

Re: [biofuel] Arrogance of Power

2003-03-25 Thread robert luis rabello
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hadn't heard that, sounds interesting. A lot of changes coming down the pike it seems. also have heard of a diesel like direct injection type gas engine as well...lotta changes, and we're all going to be part of it.