[biofuels-biz] EERE Network News -- 06/18/03

2003-06-18 Thread EERE
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- June 18, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). http://www.eere.energy.gov/

[biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick question

2003-06-18 Thread Mike Cox
hi there, i'm relatively new to the biofuels scene and have just got involved in a small project in the uk. An issue which has come up is disposal of 5 gallon vegetable oil drums. We have rapidly collected a very large number of these and are trying to determine the best way to

Re: [biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick question

2003-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
hi there, i'm relatively new to the biofuels scene and have just got involved in a small project in the uk. An issue which has come up is disposal of 5 gallon vegetable oil drums. We have rapidly collected a very large number of these and are trying to determine the best way to

Re: [biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick question

2003-06-18 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
SVO tanks? Clean out and reuse? On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 09:10 AM, Keith Addison wrote: hi there, i'm relatively new to the biofuels scene and have just got involved in a small project in the uk. An issue which has come up is disposal of 5 gallon vegetable oil drums. We have

Re: [biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick question

2003-06-18 Thread Len Walde
HI: For the right tool you have to go to the right place! Look up restaurant equipment business's. Many of them sell large can openers -- manually operated, for opening restaurant sized food ingredient cans. These work for opening/ removing the top from, five gallon veg. oil cans. I have done

Re: [biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick question

2003-06-18 Thread Steve Madley
Yep, true but can openers are a wee bit cheaper than even the most second hand Land Rover! :) Steve. - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:10 PM Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick

Re: [biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick question

2003-06-18 Thread David Teal
Also in UK, have had the same problem. Tried angle grinder (eats blades and VERY noisy), jigsaw better but still somewhat antisocial, and a nibbler which is great, although it creates thousands of small crescent-shaped shards of tinplate swarf. To get the nibbler started, a sharp chisel makes

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Argentine no-catalyst process

2003-06-18 Thread Martin Brook
Hows it going? Best regards, Martin Brook, - Original Message - From: mauro_knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:54 PM Subject: [biofuels-biz] Re: Argentine no-catalyst process Hello all, Yes, we are working in supercritical

Re: [biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick question

2003-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hi David Also in UK, have had the same problem. Tried angle grinder (eats blades and VERY noisy), jigsaw better but still somewhat antisocial, and a nibbler which is great, although it creates thousands of small crescent-shaped shards of tinplate swarf. To get the nibbler started, a sharp

Re: [biofuels-biz] New to biofuels and a quick question

2003-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
Yep, true but can openers are a wee bit cheaper than even the most second hand Land Rover! :) Steve. :-) Going ones are, I guess. It'd be a can closer rather than a can opener. But any heavyish vehicle would do - sounds as though Mike might have some such available, if they've collected that

[biofuels-biz] biocides

2003-06-18 Thread Seth Mead
Hello All- I am the owner of a small business in upstate NY which converts diesel engines to burn straight vegetable oil. We have recently gotten into large scale oil collection/filtration/distribution. My question for the list is this. Does anyone have any good ideas for workable

Re: [biofuel] re: Kerry Energy Plan

2003-06-18 Thread dcande01
Hi, How much have you considered Kucinach? What does he have to say about energy. Fred Anderson On Tuesday, Jun 17, 2003, at 15:55 US/Eastern, Hakan wrote: Do not misunderstand me, I prefer Kerry by thousands of miles before Bush. It is only that I cannot drum up any large enthusiasm for

[biofuel] Summer roommate ctrl Calif for growing BioDiesel

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Zaller
Hello, I'm searching for a roommate who would like to grow BioDiesel at my home in the Sierra Foothills of Central California (Yankee Hill Road, Columbia, CA, north of Yosemite Nat'l Park). I planted 5 acres of rapeseed last fall, and some of it is getting ready to harvest. There should

[biofuel] Fuel efficiency vs Speed

2003-06-18 Thread csakima
My book, as I recalled, does mention that what goes up with speed is air resistance (drag). Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] Right, but for smaller cars and more efficient cars

Re: [biofuel] Riello burner non-information

2003-06-18 Thread Andreas W Ohnsorge
Interesting to hear that vegoil burners are still on the market - my experience although is that these companies either do not want to sell them (I was told by a burner company here in Germany that the quality of the oil is so different from charge to charge that they had lots of problems with

[biofuel] Useful Chart from TDIClub

2003-06-18 Thread Tim Castleman
Many thanks to Aaron for sending this link to a discussion going on in the TDIClub forum about MPG @ MPH. http://forums.tdiclub.com/showflat.php?Cat=Board=UBB16Number=517408page=0view=collapsedsb=5o=14fpart=1 I have reproduced chart from that forum that shows the dramatic decrease in MPG as MPH

[biofuel] Methanol Dehydration CaO

2003-06-18 Thread mark schofield
Hi, Just a passing thought. Vacuum recovered methanol at 50mBar boils at around 15-20'C. The water content ought to be quite low but methanol forms an azeotrope with water. Therefore, if the recovered methanol were mixed with CaO (quick lime) to remove the water content the soap producing

[biofuel] Reusing washing water

2003-06-18 Thread Johnsson Tomas
Hello List, Do some one have experience or ideas of how the washing water could be cleaned from soap, methanol and other particels for to be reused as washing water in the process (closed washing water system) . The particles are easy to remove by settling the water during the settling also

Re: [biofuel] how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread Kim Garth Travis
At 06:13 PM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: A simple test would be to go down the highway at 40mph and take note of accelerator position. Now go 60mph. Not the accelerator position. Hmmm. Faster = More Gas. More Gas = More Enery. Simple test, yes? No! Too simple, you have forgotton about gears.

Re: [biofuel] Reusing washing water

2003-06-18 Thread mark schofield
Dear Tomas The very same problem I have had. Soapy water and lots of it. OK, I have experimented by adding phosphoric acid so that the final pH is of order 1.75. The soap in part cracks back into FFA or the insoluble portion floats to the top quite quickly. I think last time I added around 1cc

[biofuel] EERE Network News -- 06/18/03

2003-06-18 Thread EERE
== EERE NETWORK NEWS -- June 18, 2003 A weekly newsletter from the U.S. Department of Energy's (DOE) Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy (EERE). http://www.eere.energy.gov/

Re: [biofuel] re: Kerry Energy Plan

2003-06-18 Thread Hakan
Fred, I have not heard about him, it is difficult to know all, being a foreigner. Hakan At 09:28 PM 6/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: Hi, How much have you considered Kucinach? What does he have to say about energy. Fred Anderson On Tuesday, Jun 17, 2003, at 15:55 US/Eastern, Hakan wrote:

Re: [biofuel] Methanol Dehydration CaO

2003-06-18 Thread Ken Provost
on 6/18/03 1:48 AM, mark schofield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Just a passing thought. Vacuum recovered methanol at 50mBar boils at around 15-20'C. The water content ought to be quite low but methanol forms an azeotrope with water. Therefore, if the recovered methanol were mixed with

Re: [biofuel] Fuel efficiency vs Speed

2003-06-18 Thread Darryl McMahon
My interests in electric and human powered vehicles have led me to do some research in this area. Aerodynamic drag increases with the square of velocity, and proportionally with frontal area and co-efficient of drag (Cd). The energy required to overcome aerodynamic drag increases with the

[biofuel] Biogas technologies

2003-06-18 Thread ONG San Guan
Hi, I am sourcing for biogas technologies using human or animal excreta as the raw material in remote highlands of the Mekong Water Shed Region ( Myanmar, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, Provinces of Western China like Tibet, Sichuan, Yunnan and Guangxi ). Present ones in use may succumb to

[biofuel] bio-heating oil?

2003-06-18 Thread michaelmacdonaldstudio
I just bought a bed and breakfast business. The house is heated by kerosene-diesel. There is a huge hot water heater that is connected to radiators in each of the rooms. We also have a food business that creates a lot of cooking oil waste. It's a fried samosa business. I would like to add the

Re: [biofuel] Biogas technologies

2003-06-18 Thread pan ruti
Our university research group situated in the the city o Natal, Northeast of Brazil ina na under developed area of Brazil, different than the economically developed area of the south of Brazil , under my coordination have technical resource for the new low cost design for biogas

Re: [biofuel] how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread Brent S
totally inaccurate. Go 40, take not of milage, go 50, take note again, go 60 take note again. That would be accurate. Brent From: John Mullan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] how much do you know Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003

Re: [biofuel] how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread Brent S
I had a 1975 monte carlo with an LS6 454 engine. By using it's vacuum guage, it got the lowest vacuum at 65 mph. Run bellow that speed and you could see the gast guage move. Brent From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com

Re: [biofuel] how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread Brent S
Too bad this formula doesn't work on cars in the real world. Brent From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] how much do you know Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 21:48:24 -0500 The question is: How much you would benefit? A

Re: [biofuel] Biogas technologies

2003-06-18 Thread Hakan
I still have the bag digester files available for download, http://energysavingnow.com/bagdigesters I did it in an earlier discussion and the are quite interesting. Hakan At 08:29 AM 6/18/2003 -0700, you wrote: Our university research group situated in the the city o Natal, Northeast

Re: [biofuel] Reusing washing water

2003-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tomas Hello List, Do some one have experience or ideas of how the washing water could be cleaned from soap, methanol and other particels for to be reused as washing water in the process (closed washing water system) . I don't know how you handle the wash process, but if you do multiple

Re: [biofuel] Biogas technologies

2003-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Eong and Pannirselvam Could you provide a description of the technologies you're using? I'd welcome more discussion of biogas issues and technologies - we do have it, but not enough, IMO. Very much on-topic here. Recent discussion on the composition of natural gas (LPG) and other

[biofuel] Iceland: 70% Renewable, Wants H2 Power

2003-06-18 Thread murdoch
I cannot understand why it is so all-fired important for the precise fuel to be Hydrogen, and only Hydrogen. Here we have an entire country which has an interesting project going, but they run up against the same old thing: Hydrogen is not that easy to store and transport (at present), partly

Re: [biofuel] re: Kerry Energy Plan

2003-06-18 Thread murdoch
His page is apparently here: http://www.kucinich.net/ I just started hearing about him a week or two ago. If you look to the left under issues, I do not see Energy Policy listed explicitly.Under More issues, there are a couple of related topics, but nothing stands out. Kerry's campaign page is

Re: [biofuel] Iceland: 70% Renewable, Wants H2 Power

2003-06-18 Thread Hakan
It is only two countries in the world that have this situation, Iceland and New Zealand. The reason why it is interesting, is the possibility of plentiful and cheap electricity generated by the geysers. They need to convert this to fuel and Hydrogen is a good solution. Hakan At 09:43 AM

Re: [biofuel] how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread MH
Brent S wrote: Too bad this formula doesn't work on cars in the real world. Could you clarify without being so vague ?? Perhaps you could provide a example, please. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To

[biofuel] Faster = More Gas = More Energy.

2003-06-18 Thread DAVEINBHAM
John said Faster = More Gas. More Gas = More Energy. Maybe yes, maybe no. It depends on what you are driving as well as how fast you are driving it. As a good rule of thumb, driving at torque peak for your engine in top gear usually comes pretty close to the best MPG you will be able to get.

Re: [biofuel] re: Kerry Energy Plan

2003-06-18 Thread Hakan
Kuchini do not specify an Energy policy, but if you read the issues related to it, like environment, foreign policies etc., he does not stand out from the rest of the bunch. When I got the question what I thought about him, it was like I missed something. He did not make a difference, I am still

Re: [biofuel] bio-heating oil?

2003-06-18 Thread Andreas W Ohnsorge
Michael, I tried to mix in my central heating WVO with diesel-oil in a conventional burner for diesel-oil. It did work quite well under following conditions: - no more then about 30% of WVO - Filter the WVO before use to about 50 micron (this is the normal filter for diesel in most

[biofuel] Re: how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread Forbes Bagatelle-Black
Air resistance goes up dramatically as a function of speed, per the following equation: Power = 0.5*Cd*FA*V^3 where Power is the power consumed by the vehicle Cd is the drag coefficient of the vehicle FA is the frontal area of the vehicle V is the speed of the vehicle Using this equation, you

[biofuel] Re: Reusing washing water

2003-06-18 Thread appalenergy
Magnesium sulfate (epsom salt) works. Even plain sodium chloride (table salt) will work to some degree. Warning! Overkill on salt will produce an even worse problem, as saline effluent can yield a dead zone just as readily as soap accumulation. Todd Swearingen --- In

[biofuel] Who can explain ?

2003-06-18 Thread Pieter Koole
Hello, -When I separate the glycerin from the FFA's, can I turn the FFA's to biodiesel ? -Is there a way to do a proper titration on this job? - I read ( Apal Energy ) that the FFA's should be an effective weedkiller. How does it work as a weedkiller and still is not hamfull ? -Could I also use

Re: [biofuel] how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread murdoch
On Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:28:20 -0700, you wrote: how much do you know that reducing the speed limit again would help? Personally, I can only offer that it is simple physics. It takes energy to move mass, and more energy to move mass faster. Certainly technology has improved the efficiency of

[biofuel] San Francisco Adopts The Precautionary Principle

2003-06-18 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.rachel.org/bulletin/index.cfm?issue_ID=2338 Rachel's Environment Health News #765 June 18, 2003 Environmental Research Foundation P.O. Box 160, New Brunswick, N.J. 08903 Fax (732) 791-4603; E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rachel.org San Francisco Adopts The Precautionary

Re: [biofuel] how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread Brent S
There are more variables than the formula can account for. Tire size and gearing can make a difference on efficiency. Also type of fuel used can affect milage, along with aftermarket additives. My 1984 toyota van was getting very poor milage for a 4 cyl mini van. I reduced my rear tire size

Re: [biofuel] Re: how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread Brent S
From: Forbes Bagatelle-Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [biofuel] Re: how much do you know Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:45:19 - Air resistance goes up dramatically as a function of speed, per the following equation: Power =

[biofuel] Re: Who can explain ?

2003-06-18 Thread appalenergy
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, -When I separate the glycerin from the FFA's, can I turn the FFA's to biodiesel ? Yes, using acid esterification. -Is there a way to do a proper titration on this job? Why titrate? The feedstock is 100% FFAs. -

[biofuel] 86 Jetta TD with G3 SVO kit FS

2003-06-18 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
$2500 CAD. Kelowna, BC Contact me off list. Thanks! Edward Beggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Wireless Video Surveillance http://us.click.yahoo.com/jWIEhC/90OGAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM

Re: [biofuel] Biogas technologies

2003-06-18 Thread gumpon
Dear Faculty of Engineering , Chiengmai University which is at north of Thailland will give you good advice. They have done a lot about biogas digesters in pig farm . Gumpon ONG San Guan wrote: Hi, I am sourcing for biogas technologies using human or animal excreta as the raw material in

Re: [biofuel] how much do you know

2003-06-18 Thread robert luis rabello
Brent S wrote: I had a 1975 monte carlo with an LS6 454 engine. By using it's vacuum guage, it got the lowest vacuum at 65 mph. Run bellow that speed and you could see the gast guage move. Brent I had a 73 Chevelle with a 350, Doug Thorley headers and an aftermarket cam. The BEST