[biofuels-biz] WVO/Bio-D Gathering and Bon Voyage Party/Gathering (North OH)

2003-08-24 Thread mogcamp
Hi folk, My rig is heading off probably Mon. the 8th of Sept. on its WVO powered journey to North FL. from North OH. (Youngstown) I'll be hauling all my earthly possesions (not much LOL) cause this is a moving trip. Im putting on a Bon Voyage Party in the Youstown area the weekend of Sept.

[biofuels-biz] Re: Contraction and Convergence

2003-08-24 Thread Tim
Climate Change Emissions Regulations Thursday, September 18 2003 All Day ARB climate change regulations workshops. ARB Staff will present their proposals and Public comments will be permitted. Location: Cal/EPA Building, Coastal Room 1001 I Street Sacramento CA Contact Information:

[biofuels-biz] Europe Decides Air-Conditioning Is Not So Evil

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
Seeking Relief from Heat, Europeans Turn to Air Conditioning Concerned about their health and wary of technology, Europeans have long cast a skeptical eye on that most commonplace of U.S. appliances, the air conditioner. But this summer's blistering heat has begun to change all that. Air

[biofuels-biz] Waste-recycling falls 12 years behind schedule

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
In Scotland we currently recycle less than 7 per cent of our waste, much less than England... Switzerland recycles 52 per cent of its waste, the Netherlands 45 per cent and Finland has achieved a 30 per cent rate. In the US, just under 32 per cent of waste is recycled. The UK has achieved a

[biofuels-biz] Blackout: Repeating Energy History

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8646 TOMPAINE.com - Blackout: Repeating Energy History David Morris is the author of Seeing the Light: Regaining Control of Our Electricity System, and Vice President of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. Who says history doesn't repeat itself?

[biofuels-biz] We predicted blackout: energy expert

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
We Predicted This: Energy Expert by CBC News Online August 15, 2003 Energy experts have been warning about large-scale blackouts in North America since the early eighties. Bill Browning of the Rocky Mountain Institute in Colorado says a report for the U.S. Pentagon in 1982 (Brittle Power:

[biofuels-biz] Brittle Power: Energy Strategy for National Security

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.rmi.org/sitepages/art7095.php Rocky Mountain Institute LIBRARY-Energy Security Brittle Power Energy Strategy for National Security Download Brittle Power (PDF-1.4MB) http://www.rmi.org/images/other/S-BrPwr-Parts123.pdf Download Brittle Power Appendices (PDF-480k)

[biofuels-biz] A Declaration of Energy Independence

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.gristmagazine.com/powers/powers063003.asp?source=daily Grist | Powers That Be | 30 Jun 2003 A Declaration of Energy Independence New clean-energy coalitions talk up national security and the economy by Amanda Griscom 30 Jun 2003 Two ambitious clean-energy coalitions made headlines

[biofuels-biz] Bush Turns Blind Eye to Blackout Culprit

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
An Ohio-based energy conglomerate has been identified as responsible for the massive power blackout that shut down much of the Midwest and Northeast -- but the Bush administration isn't taking notice. FirstEnergy's strong ties to the president may help explain why the company may be let off

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: Contraction and Convergence

2003-08-24 Thread David Teal
Talking of climate change, have a look at the UK's campaign group activities and information at: http://freethesheeple.net/cacc/html/index.html They also intend to use and promote biofuels David T. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or

Re: [biofuels-biz] We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-24 Thread Bruce Barton
Funny how Plato and Aristole agreed with my observations of democracy. Ben Frankin once remarked; ... a Republic madam, if you can hold onto it. Once normal folks discover that they can vote themselves all sorts of benefits they forget common sense as well as the common good. My parents lived

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-24 Thread Bruce Barton
Unfortunately Churchill was raised in a Monarchy with a Parlamentary form of representation. His environment was not that of a limited Constitutional Republic. And I stress here that the US has long departed from that form of government (about 1914 approximately). Today we are something akin

[biofuels-biz] Re: We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
Bruce Barton wrote: Funny how Plato and Aristole agreed with my observations of democracy. Did they indeed. And how much do you know of the Greek conception of democracy? Do you think it bears any resemblance to any contemporary democracy? Do you think Plato was talking about what you're

Re: [biofuels-biz] We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-24 Thread Hakan Falk
Bruce, You force me to answer you, by the nonsense that you are producing. At 02:24 PM 8/24/2003 -0700, you wrote: Funny how Plato and Aristole agreed with my observations of democracy. Neither Plato nor Aristoles had any experience whatsoever from representative democracy or checks and

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-24 Thread Appal Energy
Today we are something akin to a Democratic Socialist Corporate state - of which nothing good can be said. I'd take great exception to such a belief. While some sages have said something to the affect of a country's humanity can be seen in the way it takes care of its animals, the humanity of

Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-24 Thread Hakan Falk
Bruce, I think that you a muddling up a lot of definitions, that you have not even bothered to learn or even less to understand. Monarchy with a Parliamentary form of representation? Limited Constitutional Republic? Democratic Socialist Corporate state? It beats me, trying to understand

Re: [biofuel] Some chaos at Yahoo

2003-08-24 Thread csakima
In a sick way, it's kinda funny though. A YahooGroup ... bouncing out its Moderator/OWNER. Curtis Get your free newsletter at http://www.ezinfocenter.com/3122155/NL - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] I suppose I'm not the only one, but dear old Yahoo has

Re: [biofuel] IDI vs. DI

2003-08-24 Thread kline
Well, then, I got it backwards. So if Mercedes are IDI, what are some other examples of IDI diesels available in the US? Thanks. Maud St. Louis, MO Maud Essen wrote: I'm reading up on the preference for IDI vs. DI diesels for burning WVO. If Mercedes diesels are DI, what are some

Re: [biofuel] I need to buy some biodiesl(not make)for my car ?????

2003-08-24 Thread kline
I live in Beaverton/Hillsboro, Oregon area and need to buy fuel for my 1981 datsun 810 diesel. Info as to where I can purchase biodiesel or any other related information would be happily received. Thank You, Tammus. Go to the national biodiesel

Re: [biofuel] I need to buy some biodiesl(not make)for my car ?????

2003-08-24 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Is that near Corvallis? Try our dealer over there, if it is not too far away http://www.grease-works.com (Corvallis Biodiesel Co-op) On Saturday, August 23, 2003, at 06:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I live in Beaverton/Hillsboro, Oregon area and need to buy fuel for my 1981

[biofuel] Porsche diesel coming for 2005...

2003-08-24 Thread Neoteric Biofuels Inc
Ê Ê Ê Up-to-date Ê Porsche 911 GTD in the test: Sound like A Diesels Who does not know it, roaring, roaring the legend, the double-piston engine Porsche 911. Likewise the Design of the Elfers,

Re: [biofuel] Costs - was Re: oil transfer pump, 55 gal processor

2003-08-24 Thread JERRY PURCELL
Thanks Keith, I've decided that I will start with a 55 Gal. processor and proceed slowly so as not to make any mistakes. I estimate I need about 1200 gals. per year to supply my car and heat my house. A 55 gal. batch every 2 weeks will do it and give me time to gain experience. I'm in the

[biofuel] Europe Decides Air-Conditioning Is Not So Evil

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
Seeking Relief from Heat, Europeans Turn to Air Conditioning Concerned about their health and wary of technology, Europeans have long cast a skeptical eye on that most commonplace of U.S. appliances, the air conditioner. But this summer's blistering heat has begun to change all that. Air

[biofuel] Waste-recycling falls 12 years behind schedule

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
In Scotland we currently recycle less than 7 per cent of our waste, much less than England... Switzerland recycles 52 per cent of its waste, the Netherlands 45 per cent and Finland has achieved a 30 per cent rate. In the US, just under 32 per cent of waste is recycled. The UK has achieved a

[biofuel] Blackout: Repeating Energy History

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/8646 TOMPAINE.com - Blackout: Repeating Energy History David Morris is the author of Seeing the Light: Regaining Control of Our Electricity System, and Vice President of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. Who says history doesn't repeat itself?

[biofuel] We predicted blackout: energy expert

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
We Predicted This: Energy Expert by CBC News Online August 15, 2003 Energy experts have been warning about large-scale blackouts in North America since the early eighties. Bill Browning of the Rocky Mountain Institute in Colorado says a report for the U.S. Pentagon in 1982 (Brittle Power:

Re: [biofuel] Biofuel Coops

2003-08-24 Thread CH
Hi Maud, Keith, and anyone else interested in this, I live in central New York State, USA, and am interested in a buyer's biodiesel production supply coop. I don't believe a biodiesel producer's coop works very well (where coop members would share equipment to make biodiesel), as the

Re: [biofuel] Biofuel Coops

2003-08-24 Thread Maud Essen
I'm grateful to have found an appropriate forum for such a discussion. Buying co-ops make sense on a macro scale and production co-ops on a micro scale. As you point out, it certainly makes sense for both types of co-ops to function simultaneously. As an example, I live in the Central West

[biofuel] Taking Responsibility

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=16608 AlterNet: Taking Responsibility By John Stauber and Sheldon Rampton, AlterNet August 15, 2003 I take personal responsibility for everything I say, of course. Absolutely, declared President Bush during his most recent news conference. And yet

[biofuel] A Declaration of Energy Independence

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.gristmagazine.com/powers/powers063003.asp?source=daily Grist | Powers That Be | 30 Jun 2003 A Declaration of Energy Independence New clean-energy coalitions talk up national security and the economy by Amanda Griscom 30 Jun 2003 Two ambitious clean-energy coalitions made headlines

[biofuel] Bush Turns Blind Eye to Blackout Culprit

2003-08-24 Thread Keith Addison
An Ohio-based energy conglomerate has been identified as responsible for the massive power blackout that shut down much of the Midwest and Northeast -- but the Bush administration isn't taking notice. FirstEnergy's strong ties to the president may help explain why the company may be let off

[biofuel] OT-- free CDs in US

2003-08-24 Thread kirk
A penny saved and all that Kirk kHypermedia CD-R media 100pk for $0 after rebates** - 9:47 am OfficeMax retail stores once again offer the kHypermedia CD-R media 100-pack for $20. A pair of mail-in rebates, totaling $20, knock the net price to $0. Offer ends August 30, 2003, and is not

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-24 Thread Hakan Falk
Bruce, You force me to answer you, by the nonsense that you are producing. At 02:24 PM 8/24/2003 -0700, you wrote: Funny how Plato and Aristole agreed with my observations of democracy. Neither Plato nor Aristoles had any experience whatsoever from representative democracy or checks and

[biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Re: We Had a Democracy Once, But You Crushed It

2003-08-24 Thread Hakan Falk
Bruce, I think that you a muddling up a lot of definitions, that you have not even bothered to learn or even less to understand. Monarchy with a Parliamentary form of representation? Limited Constitutional Republic? Democratic Socialist Corporate state? It beats me, trying to understand

Re: [biofuel] Waste-recycling falls 12 years behind schedule

2003-08-24 Thread murdoch
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:12:18 +0900, you wrote: In Scotland we currently recycle less than 7 per cent of our waste, much less than England... Switzerland recycles 52 per cent of its waste, the Netherlands 45 per cent and Finland has achieved a 30 per cent rate. In the US, just under 32 per